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I love this stuff. Thanks man. I've never done this trick either. Jacking up the trans is a great way to do it.I know this thread is old.
The shift cable is 2 torx head bolts to remove it. Also you can loosen the 15mm nut on the mount and jack up the trans to clear the exhaust. you don't have to remove the driveshaft or the exhaust if you jack up the trans.
I've never had the option of removing the torx bolts up top either. They've always been so corroded I couldn't even tell what they were. Cleveland snow and salt. Never had a brand new truck either. I checked the trans area on the SS out the other night, and everything looks amazing under there, but I reached up on the shifter bracket and those torx bolt heads are just little piles of rust. I thought for sure this would be the one I don't have to bend and cuss at for a half hour. Lol
It actually looks like there's enough clearance to get the pan off without even bending the bracket though, so maybe I'll luck out like some others have.
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Enough guys, quit the bickering and get back to the main topic, obviously nobody heeded the earlier warning.....
Please close the thread then, so I can stop having to defend myself against swearing, name calling 'veterans'. Trust me, I will NEVER post here again. I have a life, and I can't believe I've sat here and argued with little worms hiding behind computers calling me names. Every helpful thing I get from this site was from years ago anyway. When positive people with mechanical ability, and writing ability made the posts, like that Mr. P. I will keep coming back to read that stuff.
But this .... you guys can have it. Goodbye. I could've really helped some people, I've already tried if you see my history.
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Name calling, swearing, and personal disrespect from 'veteran' members of this site like idahoBLKss are what's ruining it. Not literate, helpful new members with fresh ideas.
I didn't realize I was a dumba$$, drunken pothead. I thought I was a disabled combat veteran trying to start a new life with a 136 IQ and a college education that hasn't touched drugs or had a drink in 3 goddamn years, that likes to work on trucks and help people. Thanks for the helpful wisdom, 'veteran'! It's your hypocrisy toward new members that is ruining this site.
I hope someone reads this thread in the future and sees how hypocritical you've been. I see you have a Zippy tune. Why don't you ask Zippy about his HP output or his C5 pan recommendations? Oh, that's right. You're an idiot. He says it's a no brainer. You probably have it on your truck and forgot, and now you're arguing the wrong point. That wouldn't surprise me, judging from your literacy.
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SO your truck has 25% more horse power then 345 hp (431hp) with just a cai, exhaust servos and your tune ?? oh wait your trans pan will add at least 50 hp ... your a dumb a$$ and people like you are whats destroying the site.
Illiteracy strikes again, dummy. I never said that.
But yea, I bet it's definitely close to 25% more than what my coworkers stock 2000 Corvette with a 4 speed is acually putting out.
You're not over 431? If not, why? Oh that's right, you're an idiot. you probably are over 431, you're just arguing the wtrong side. Like a typical idiot.
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LMAO! please tell me your drunk or high ! you do know the truck is 2-2500 LBS HEAVIER then a vette and probably be lucky to pull half the G's a vette can in a corner right? our trucks need about 25% more horse power then a vette to keep up with one in a straight line let alone threw the curves . trucks are not designed to take corners at speed like a vette awd or not the vette will stomp you in the corners .
You don't get it. You must be illiterate or stupid if I'm drunk or high. Don't get personal with me, Internet Rambo. Learn to read.
I know our trucks are heavier than a Corvette. When did I say they're not, Captain Obvious? Most of us here also have WELL over 25% more HP than 345. And I'm pretty sure I said same driver, so whatever the outcome, no one is stomping me.
Illiteracy and assumptions are a serious problem in this country. Transmission pans are not. Get your priorities straight.
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Yeah honestly if I could fit it on my truck I'm building I would. Being a street rod the car pan is just about as deep as I want to go or tear the damn thing off on the roads.
Any chance you could lay it flat and get a depth measurement?
Sure. I also posted pics to make it easier to see how I measured. It's 4 inches total depth, pan with sump. The sump itself hangs 1 1/2 inches below the rest of the pan.
The benefits of the sump are not extra fluid or cooling, just added fluid collection and suction.
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I stand corrected.
And that being said, enough is enough guys. Every point has been made
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Your like that bi polar ex girlfriend that never comes to reality. You made this post making it seem like this pan was the next best thing since sliced bread. Puts the filter deep in the fluid, wont suck air, blah blah. Dude, these are 1500 Silverado farm trucks. Not some road race car. Get a grip. Just cause it came on a "corvette" doesnt mean its gonna be just so awesome for our trucks. And by the way, you keep referring to Corvette "servos"....in reality there is only one that is different on the corvette not two which is the 2nd apply and not the fourth apply.
I never once said it was a bad mod, but to make a thread making it seem like its so crucial for our TRUCKS to have this is going overboard. My point im trying to make is when a newbie gets on reading this thread they dont think "oh wow I really need that or im gonna starve my transmission of fluid"...rather yes this is benificial but a trans cooler is more benificial for the money. But hell if you have the extra cash why not do both?! Like you said for $20 bucks your gonna have the pan off anyhow. Stick this one on with an extra quart of fluid. Def kudos for sharing the mod to some of the new comers that havnt been around.
Next best thing since sliced bread? I stated facts. Those are just facts about what it does, and I explained that to you on the other thread days ago. The first thing I said was EXACTLY what it does, and that it is probably overkill. Then you jumped on here and immediately said it's "pointless", and disregarded it because it's not a cooler. Read my previous post for some more facts on our "farm trucks" versus a Corvette. My farm truck seems to need this pan worse than the vaunted corvette does.
I never said just cause something came on a "corvette" its gonna be awesome for our trucks. I sure don't want Goodyear Eagles on my truck. Or a rag top. Or RWD.
You originally said it was a pointless mod and a waste of money, but I'm glad you now see what I'm getting at. Just trying to share this with guys here who have been helpful. I'm not claiming it can do anything that it is not intended for. It is not for cooling, it is for exactly what I stated it is for. And now there is further evidence from highly respected members of this site who have actually already done this, and say it is a great upgrade. Interesting.
And then you're going to harp on an 's' being added to the word 'servo'? Laugh out loud at that last grasp.
That's all you got left, huh. No hard feelings though from me, you helped me research this mod even more and realize that our trucks need it more than the car it was installed on. The more I read about it, the more I justify it's installation.
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calm down ninja go roll a joint and listen to some icp and come back with a better attitude , these guys are trying to help you . and if you think your truck will out perform a c5 vette on a road course you need to put down the crack ... lol.
No, the guys in the thread I just posted are helping people.
This here is nothing but negativity and false claims.
I will not be discredited by someone who does not even understand what's going on. Why didn't he discredit all those members like Zippy back in 07, when they made accurate statements as to the purpose and benefit of this pan, just like I TRIED to do here?
You wouldn't race a stock c5 vette through curves??!! It's not crack, buddy it's called confidence. I would put money on my truck (with new tires) against one anytime anywhere.
Here are some facts for you....
'Buyers could purchase the C5 Corvette with a four-speed automatic or six-speed manual transmission. Both drivetrains could achieve 345 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and 350 lb-ft. of torque at 4,400 rpm. In performance, "Motor Trend" reports that the LS1 could accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds, hit 109.3 mph in the quarter-mile in 13.2 seconds and reach a top speed of 173.9 mph.'
You see that guys? The angelic C5 Corvette has MATCHING HORSEPOWER and LESS TORQUE than a STOCK Silverado SS. And the 1/4 mile times are easily achievable too (and that's a straight line, not curves). How could a built awd SSS NOT beat a stock, REAR WHEEL DRIVE c5 Corvette in a road race? Fact is, it will. All day. And with just a few hundred bucks added to a stock SSS, it would beat that vette in ANY race, ANYwhere, ANYtime.And that stock vette, which is slower AND corners worse than my truck, comes with this pan on it straight from Chevrolet, to prevent the trans filter sucking air on launches and curves....... Ummm, my truck launches faster, AND handles curves faster than a stock c5, so to me and several other respected members of this site, this UPGRADE is a no brainer. To others, it seems to be on par with a throttle body spacer for some reason. But again, my faith and trust is in Zippy, Krambo, Mr. P, and GM Performance over someone who doesn't even own the vehicle this pan is for, ANYDAY.Yea, I think I'll trust the Corvette engineers at GM Performance, thanks. If they deemed this pan necessary on a car that doesn't even need it as badly as my truck, then my truck definitely needs it now.Again for clarity.... If you race two equal drivers on a road course, one in a less powerful, slower RWD car, and one in an AWD truck which also has more power and torque, who do you think is going to win 9 out of 10 times?! Probably 10 out of 10 actually. A stock c5 Corvette, even a Z06 with a 6 speed, is not even a threat to one of our built trucks on a road course, or even in the 1/4 mile if you spend a few hundred dollars on your stock SSS.I suppose you're intimidated by Ford Raptors too. Our trucks will leave a stock Raptor choking on exhaust fumes. I do it all the time here in Ford country. I'd even race one of those ugly things in dirt and sand, with mild upgrades and tires on my truck. And beat that Ford again for a 1/4 of the price.... then swap tires and beat a vette on a road course... then tow the vette home!!!Thanks again everyone who posted here, even to the negative posts about this hidden gem. I am more convinced now than ever that I NEED this pan put on my truck. You all can read the FACTS and make your own decisions. -
Steve AKA Mr.P did this exact same thing years ago so no... its not new.
You're right. Zippy and Krambo too, it seems. Look what I found...
Hmm, interesting UPGRADE idea there, and coming from 'veteran' members with tens of thousands of posts, six years ago! Very nice read, thank you Sprayed99.
I rest my case. I respect the opinions of Zippy over someone who polished their water pump and tells me I'm wasting money any day.
They all loved the C5 Corvette pan and recommend it to everyone. HA! Thanks again, Sprayed99. It took awhile, but I found that thread by searching the part # of the pan.
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Off topic: You should check out the video of a SSS against a BMW on the Autobahn. I can't complain because I own both brands but it is priceless seeing the SSS pull on the BMW. If I can find the video I will post it.
Any idea how to find the video? I searched Youtube and didn't see it.
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This is good advise. I'd reuse your stock exhaust manifold gaskets, can't find any better than them.
Are the stock manifold gaskets really the best? I was wondering about this recently because I'm planning on LT headers for my SS soon too.
Also my 03 Yukon XL sounds like a diesel when you first start it, until the manifold gaskets heat up and expand a little. I kinda get a kick out of it, but if I changed them out, stock is good?
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I didn't realize jumping out of planes taught you how to work on a truck?
I missed the part where I claimed that.
US Army Airborne Jumpmasters taught me to jump out of planes. I taught myself to work on a truck.
He's not saying "you are dumb for this" he's simply saying money is better spent elsewhere if money is an issue. Everyone is over reacting today holy f.
Yes smoke will work just don't use your wiper blades. Lol.
My wiper blades spray plasti dip instead of washer fluid, so it's all good.
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I wouldn't plasti dip your intake, might block air flow to the motor
Thanks for the tip, I'm new at this. Can I do my windshield? I see they have a 'smoke' color I should try. Aah screw it, black always looks better.
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You're getting overly defensive. You never stated that you were only doing it as an added value during a fluid change. The way I read the thread was this as a planned mod for added value. 2bfasT from what I can see never hinted that your intentions with the pan were to cool fluid...
It was all explained directly to him on another thread. He then got on this thread with the pics and disregarded everything that I already explained. I'm just explaining again. And again. And again.
How is anyone who has "polished water pump" in his list of mods for the SS he HAD, going to seriously say this $20 upcharge transmission pan off of a Corvette does "nothing" and is a waste of money"?
IQs are now based on number of posts someone has on a website? Or can someone have a valid idea who spent their life driving and fixing GM trucks, jumping out of airplanes and getting shot at instead of polishing their fan blades and sitting at a computer?
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Whoever spent $700.00 on a trans cooler is out of their mind
$130 give or take tops
"I recently read that someone paid $700 TOTAL for a trans cooler INSTALLATION."
Ummmm... should I read this aloud for the class?
Here I am again repeating myself to 'veteran' members who seem to just pick and choose parts of my sentences, then reply based on what they concocted.
Thanks again for the extremely helpful and non-repetitive comments from the "veterans" of a website. I'll save my 20 years of self taught mechanical experience on GM trucks for myself and my family.
This is a TRUE veteran (7 years US Army, Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division. Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan combat service, now disabled because of surgeries on my destroyed paratrooper knees and a rocket explosion in my ear) signing out.
I will be back with pics and a detailed description of my plasti dipped rims, bumpers, valve covers, intake, hood, steering wheel, dash, and license plate holder. That's going TO BE FAST!!
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I'm tired of repeating myself to 'veteran' members who claim something is pointless because it doesn't do something that I never even claimed it was for.
C5 Corvette deep sump transmission pan
DISCLAIMER:
This will not cool your transmission. This is a C5 Corvette pan that benefits high performance vehicles on launch and in high speed turns, and it fits our trucks. You may find that interesting, you may not. If you're changing your fluid and your pan needs replaced, this is a nice $20 upcharge. If you would like a cooler, buy a cooler.
That was pretty much it from me from the start, and all I've done is have to repeat myself to 'veterans' since.
Thanks to the 'veteran' members for helping me see the light now. I will now return the Corvette pan, lower my truck 2 inches, buy aftermarket lights, add a transmission cooler, and a radix. Maybe get everything under the hood polished too. Then maybe something I post will be considered valid by the 'veteran' members.
I apologize for finding something rare that I assumed someone might find interesting. I didn't realize it had to be run by the 'veterans' first to make sure they have one on their truck already. Or in some cases perhaps, HAD one.
Also, not a boast, but if you put almost any driver in my SS on a road track, I really think he would run it faster in my AWD SS, than he could in a stock C5 Corvette.
And the stock C5 Corvette came with this pan, along with servos, so why shouldn't I add this to MY truck (yes, my truck) for an additional $20 when doing a fluid, filter, and pan change?
I'll post about how much better it shifts in a few days, if at all. Yes, that was sarcasm earlier about seeing 'the light'. I can make my own decisions without the green Kool Aid.
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It's not a cooler. I never claimed I got it to cool the transmission fluid.
Adding this pan while doing my NEEDED fluid and filter change cost me about $20 extra over a stock pan.
I didn't realize that scheduled maintenance on a rare, somewhat high performance vehicle is a waste of time and money, since I'm not "gaining anything".
I recently read that someone paid $700 total for a trans cooler installation. The fluid change I'm doing is required IMO, will take me an hour and cost me $20 extra. Perhaps I should spend my money on getting a polished water pump instead.
Thanks for the advice. I'll post when I install a cooler too.
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Since you already have a tune. I'd go with OBX Lt's (the catless ones) and install them yourself, save some $$$. You'll still have enough for new header gaskets, corvette 2nd servo and billet 4th. Boom there's 7hundy
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Pics of the "deep sump" transmission oil filter with extended tube.
The paper included from GM Powertrain states that this filter with extended pick up tube is only to be used in 4L60E transmissions with "deep sump" bottom pan.
AC Delco Corvette parts are always welcome in my vehicles.
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this is what you want to get if its in your budget. "Its so easy a cave man can do it!!" Contact time2kill on here, he has a sweet pre-made bracket that fits perfectly on our trucks. I want to say its not more than 20 bones or so extra also, easy install and well worth it.
http://www.silveradoss.com/forums/topic/31418-tru-cool-max-or-bm-70274-trans-cooler/
Very nice! Thanks man. It's definitely in the future. Definitely.
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Yes a caveman could install a plug in a stock pan
Also I would want the plug on the bottom of the pan rather than the side
So you installed a plug in your stock pan on the bottom then?
I see in your signature that you don't actually own a vehicle that this pan is for, so perhaps not.
Thank you for all your helpful comments though.
I'm going down to Grog's transmission shop now to have him put drain plugs in all 4 corners of my pan. I might even leave the plug out of one hole to help the tranny run cooler.
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Yes a caveman could install a plug in a stock pan
Also I would want the plug on the bottom of the pan rather than the side
So you installed a plug in your stock pan on the bottom then?
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nothing really, just to say you have an extra quart in the pan...which really doesnt do anything more either. I would be looking for ways to cool the oil rather than add
A trans cooler is definitely more important than just adding a pan, if a trans cooler is in your budget and skillset.
At this time it is not in my budget, time-wise or money-wise (the time and money I would lose researching, buying parts, and doing the project is not worth it to me at this point. I would definitely like to add a transmission cooler in the future though.
This is just an after work trans fluid swap, and I happened to find info on the Corvette pan for now.
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I forgot to add 'I know this thread is old.'
I'm still glad the tip exists here though.