BluHawk141 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 We just finished installing the ProCharger. We fabbed up a front mount intercooler using their 3 core. Behind it is a 32,000 GVW Flex-A-Lite HD trans cooler. Swapped over to the LS1 style 60 lbs./hr. fuel injectors, Meziere electric water pump, Comp 921 Springs and Titanium Retainers, custom ground 232/240 cam, stage II trans, Yank Pro Truck 3400. I think that is about it. I am awaiting the dual intake pumps, they should go out tomorrow from Racetronix. Here is some pics, also you can see our version of the air intake. What do you guys think?
deezel Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 Nice looking install. awaiting boost and performance numbers...
styleandspeed Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 I like the way that you ran the intake, but just FYI someond did some testing a while back with a similar setup, and lost power because of all the piping even though the air was cooler. I don't know if his flowed as well as yours does or not, just letting ya know. Looks great though. Can't wait to see your #'s.
SS BY WAY OF QUICKSPEED RACING Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 dammit!!! i think i just left a wet spot in my favorite chair!! i hate when that happens.....im such a
BluHawk141 Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Posted January 11, 2005 The tuning will be done on the street with a wide band O2 sensor. I have the 4.00" pulley on there right now. That should be good for 8-9 psi. But I will be shifting at about 6600 or 6700 rpm. So I am not sure how much boost I will hit. We are shooting for 12 psi. Hopefully a high 11 second pass. I have seen a couple of different intakes on the ProCharger. Do you know who lost some power? I figured with the 4" pipe all the way there shouldn't be much for restriction. The K&N that is on there is the shitty one from ProCharger. They make you reduce the 4" inlet to 3.5" so I have a 4" inlet diameter by 7" round by 9" long K&N filter on the way. Also we relocated the surge valve to a location where you don't see it cluttering up the engine bay. We set it up like ProCharger does on the C5 Vettes, we just have it venting to atmosphere.
F8L Z71 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 Can't wait to see it run My buddy Rick has swapped over 2 ATI cars to a front mount kit and seen great results and about a 2psi gain over the standard twins that come on the LS1 kit. There is less piping with his setup and he said trottle response is better now so there may be something to the piping thing.
BenKey Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 Nice looking install. Your shifting numbers blow me away. Not that it's bad or anything, you're just approaching f-body numbers, but I'm sure work great with that big of a cam. Makes my stroker cam seem small. What is the max rpm of the ATI? At 6700rpms, you're at 13000, roughly. Your fuel setup is the same as mine for a 408 and 15lbs of boost. Are you setting up for some bigger cubes/lot more boost down the road? I saw you were going for 12lbs. Seems like a lot of fuel if not.
smithl3 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 Looks real good. The front mount is something to think about. Even with ducting there really is no way I am going to get as much air as you are getting. Depending on your exhaust, you should be right around 12 lbs. by the time you shift that pig. Good luck with getting it tuned. Check and see if your air meter values are constant at constant loads. Mine tends to be sinusoidal, wondering if your setup helps this problem, I would be interested to know.
BluHawk141 Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Posted January 11, 2005 Nice looking install. Your shifting numbers blow me away. Not that it's bad or anything, you're just approaching f-body numbers, but I'm sure work great with that big of a cam. Makes my stroker cam seem small. What is the max rpm of the ATI? At 6700rpms, you're at 13000, roughly. Your fuel setup is the same as mine for a 408 and 15lbs of boost. Are you setting up for some bigger cubes/lot more boost down the road? I saw you were going for 12lbs. Seems like a lot of fuel if not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Besides the 13,000 the blower has a 4.10 step up ratio, so now we are talking 53,300 rpm. The blower is good for 62,200 rpm, 1200cfm, 30psi, or 825 hp, whichever comes first. For the fuel system, my fuel pump module could only be setup for the two pump. We have used the Delphi 50lbs/hr injectors before but it seems like the Mototron 60lbs/hr give a nicer idle quality and you don't have to mess with the programming as much. Also there is only a $40 price difference between the two, so I figured I would put in something that I can grow into. I'll have to check the maf readings, as soon as the pumps come in, they are shipping today. Hopefully see them Friday or Saturday.
styleandspeed Posted January 12, 2005 Report Posted January 12, 2005 That guy was on LS1tech who lost power, but he was also using 3" pipe. I will see if I can find it.
BluHawk141 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Posted January 12, 2005 That guy was on LS1tech who lost power, but he was also using 3" pipe. I will see if I can find it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could see that. I could see the K&N that ProCharger provides as a loss. If you have a 4" inlet and you bring the diameter down I would expect it. ProCharger gives you a 3.5" filter and a reducer from the 4" elbow. It doesn't make much sense to me. ProCharger makes a good product, but it takes some modification to make it awesome. The Radix is great and setup right from them, it is great. If you want more you are just about done with the blower. I guess it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. I have a question for every one who reads this, I have been talking with my friends and none of us really understand it. How come almost every one here goes with a fairly small cam and converter. I can understand if you are towing, but I would guess that only half of us here use our SS's for towing. I have put together Vettes with 8psi and a small cam and they are making about 550rwhp on an automatic. Of course we have more drive line loss, and I am not worried about dyno numbers, but I think I should be able to hit real low 12s if not high 11s. I know my cam is going to be a rough idle, but the cam we usually put in a Vette or Fbody are smaller and have a bit of chop to the idle, but nothing I wouldn't recommend to any body for a daily driver, unless they had to have it like stock. As soon as my pump gets here, hopefully this week. I can stop speculating and let you guys know what its all about. I would like to get together with the Chicago guys when the weather clears up. How many Chicago guys do we have here? I see a lot of people without locations. I will have the truck at the Vette fest any body else putting theirs in it?
ChevySSandChevy8.1 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Posted January 12, 2005 That install looks like a good setup, I can't wait to hear about what kind of numbers you get out of that thing.
BluHawk141 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Posted January 12, 2005 Here is another pic with the hood closed.
styleandspeed Posted January 12, 2005 Report Posted January 12, 2005 A lot of us go with small cams and a mild converter because the trucks are heavy, and a big cam would not be very good for us off the line. Also many of us do tow so we go with somewhat mild converters. Also our trannies are already so stressed out as it is hauling our 5200 lb trucks around. I forget who said it but I like how they put it "try towing 2 Jet Skis behind a vette and see how long the tranny lasts." FLP even told I think F8L Z71 that they don't think that their level 5 tranny will last behind a truck with some serious power. We don't have a good solution YET. People are already working on parts to swap a 4L80E and still use an awd T-case. I would like to go all out with a big cam, and a big stall, but I am still making a payment on the truck and still have a warranty. I think in a couple years when more of them are paid off you will see more crazy setups too. Aaron
styleandspeed Posted January 12, 2005 Report Posted January 12, 2005 Found the other guy with the intake. His doesn't look quite as nice as yours, and he did use 3" His webpage Look on here on the 2nd post down procharger thread Yours is sealed off too which is something that he should have done and didn't do.
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