Tuning for E85???

[misterp]

... One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

Speak for yourself; I live in a brick house

[RevolutionRaceWorks]

When I see nascar start using it.. Becuase they use more fuel in one race than our whole forum uses in a year.... in theroy.. then I will give it a try..

[SS_bnoon_SS]

... One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

Speak for yourself; I live in a brick house

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You would still be without food like the rest of us goofy!

[TimC3]

One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

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Are you serious? Where the hell did you read that?

[MN C5]

Yeah, up until recently, E85 was actually quite a bit cheaper than it is now, and in some places it still is cheaper per mile to run. The "demand exceeding supply" is driving the price up on it actually. In other states where the E85 has to be driven into the holding stations, riding on dino burning trucks, the dino fuel costs are pushing E85 out of reach as a cost effective alternative.

 

One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

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WTF that’s nuts... SS_boon what’s your read on global warming

 

I've often wondered why nothing grows around a Jack Daniels distillery. Its the killer yeast

[SS_bnoon_SS]

One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

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Are you serious? Where the hell did you read that?

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It's actually been on several alternative fuel source websites, and even CNN about genetically altered micro-organisms. In this case, it was yeast that were altered to be able to produce the ethanol more quickly from the source weeds/corn stalks/etc. In more than one case, they made a yeast that worked so well and so quickly, that it could kill live plants in their hunger for the sugar in the plants. If these were ever somehow introduced into the world, they could "kill" the soil by quickly eating what ever was trying to grow there... Growing genetically modified plants that produce more ethanol can "kill" the soil too... I'm glad these plant bio-techs are doing their job... I shudder to think what could really happen if a terrorist knew half of what these guys kill off in a lab for being to dangerous for the world...

[misterp]

One danger of all of this ethanol push is the genetic mutations of the organisms (mainly yeasts) that turn straw/corn stalks/beans/grass/weeds/sugar cane/etc into ethanol is that something could get released into the food chain that we don't want there. In worst case, it could mutate the yeast into plant eating machines that could clear the whole world of vegetation in less than a decade. Wouldn't that be fun?

Are you serious? Where the hell did you read that?

Shell Oil holds the patent and technology on a man-made strain of yeast that not only can metabolize (ferment) starches but also cellulose; the idea was to ferment the whole plant including the woody stem parts, not just the sugars. This is the only way that they could produce the fuel on the scale required for mass consumption. But it is also feared that such a yeast could also ferment wood, paper, etc and an industrial accident could lead to mass deforrestation.

[TimC3]

Hmm.. scary stuff.. Seemed a little far-fetched at first, but I'm also glad that those guys are doing their job and going through all the scenarios.