CaliChevyV8 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I have a 2005 Honda TRX450R. Its all stock except for the ITP rims and paddles. I wanna put a full exhaust system on it but I can't decide which one to go with. Anyone else ride on here and have some suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer204 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 yosh or white brothers full sytems i favor the carbon yosh but really if weights not a big deal the aluminum systems are of equal quality if not the exact same performance jsut with less weight and they both sound great i had both sytems on 06's crf450 and trx450 and soon to be 07's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_forma Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 everyone has different opinions on this, personally yosh is alright but IMO white brothers suck, all they are is loud. You may want to look at the trx forums for the best insight. There are to many variables for this matter which I cannot get into cause it will be pages upon pages. Just do a little research for what type of riding you will be doing, noise level, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I've already been all over the 450R site, and they all say that white bro's aren't that good. I've seen dyno charts that have convinced me. I just wanted to bring up the topic on here since the site has seemed kinda dead lately and I wanted the SS bro's opinions. So far I'm thinkin about DASA, Rossier, ESR or HMF I just got back into riding so thats why I'm kinda lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_forma Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 (edited) HMF is pretty good choice for the money, what kind of riding do you do? Each pipe will have a different effect throughout the RPM range so thats why its hard to really narrow it down. Also Curtis sparks makes a decent all around exhaust, but can be pricey Edited November 29, 2006 by fox_forma (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaotik1 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Personally honda's are already nice from the factory. Aftermarket systems on these quads only seem to make them louder more than anything else. If I were to ride more sandpits or open desert areas, I would do exhaust but for woods riding I like to keep stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I ride dunes. And with a couple other mods I've seen some of these systems make a additional 10HP on dyno charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thallent Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 (edited) Have you looked into the honda powerup kit? Not sure if you can get just part of it or the whole thing but they appear to give a new headpipe and a diffeternt core for the stock exhaust. Powerup Edited November 29, 2006 by thallent (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11H Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 (edited) I've already been all over the 450R site, and they all say that white bro's aren't that good. I've seen dyno charts that have convinced me. I just wanted to bring up the topic on here since the site has seemed kinda dead lately and I wanted the SS bro's opinions. So far I'm thinkin about DASA, Rossier, ESR or HMF I just got back into riding so thats why I'm kinda lost. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Kyle, I know most of the builders and pipe fabbers ... To give you a choice on a good pipe, I need to know your mods and your intended mods, because to get the MOST out of a pipe, I need to know where and how your motor makes power ... In that, if you want the BEST pipe for overall performance that will make it actually feel like you made an improvement, the SPARKS RACING 2" core X5 pipe would be my choice ... (I have run 4 or 5 different pipes on my R and I run the sparks X6 witht he 2 1/4" BIG core) ... The pipe has some things other pipes on the market don't have, on dyno results you DO NOT want to look at HP max or curve, you want to look at the pipe that makes the BROADEST and BIGGEST (flat and overall) torque curve ... The TQ that comes on earliest, holds the longest and is broadest is what accelerates a quad ... NOT max HP However, if you still have the stock cam, you are wasting your money on a full system ... In this case, go with the HMF slip-on sport or the DR. D (dubach racing) slip-on ... The stock Honda header is very adequate with a slip-on if you have not upgraded the stock cam ... and I wouldn't think you have increased compression without doing the cam ... my .02 Edited November 29, 2006 by 11H (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yeah I was thinkin about gettin that. Then I just decided I wanted to do a full exhaust for now then maybe throw a cam in later down the road. Thanks for the link though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11H Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yeah I was thinkin about gettin that. Then I just decided I wanted to do a full exhaust for now then maybe throw a cam in later down the road. Thanks for the link though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You have to decide on a cam now then before you run a full pipe ... a cam on this quad is not equal; they all do different things and mismatch the pipe to cam and you might have a quad that is not what you want ... Where do you ride and how? I can recommend a cam then ... (BTW, I wrote many of the tech posts in the FAQ of the trx450r.org site when I was admin there ... I helped start that site from the word go) ... I admin at atvtech.net now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I've already been all over the 450R site, and they all say that white bro's aren't that good. I've seen dyno charts that have convinced me. I just wanted to bring up the topic on here since the site has seemed kinda dead lately and I wanted the SS bro's opinions. So far I'm thinkin about DASA, Rossier, ESR or HMF I just got back into riding so thats why I'm kinda lost. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Kyle, I know most of the builders and pipe fabbers ... To give you a choice on a good pipe, I need to know your mods and your intended mods, because to get the MOST out of a pipe, I need to know where and how your motor makes power ... In that, if you want the BEST pipe for overall performance that will make it actually feel like you made an improvement, the SPARKS RACING 2" core X5 pipe would be my choice ... (I have run 4 or 5 different pipes on my R and I run the sparks X6 witht he 2 1/4" BIG core) ... The pipe has some things other pipes on the market don't have, on dyno results you DO NOT want to look at HP max or curve, you want to look at the pipe that makes the BROADEST and BIGGEST (flat and overall) torque curve ... The TQ that comes on earliest, holds the longest and is broadest is what accelerates a quad ... NOT max HP However, if you still have the stock cam, you are wasting your money on a full system ... In this case, go with the HMF slip-on sport or the DR. D (dubach racing) slip-on ... The stock Honda header is very adequate with a slip-on if you have not upgraded the stock cam ... and I wouldn't think you have increased compression without doing the cam ... my .02 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So far I am all stock. I don't think I wanna go crazy moding the quad. If I do I cam it won't be for a couple seasons. For now I am just thinkin about exhaust, jetting, and air box/filter. What are your thoughts on these systems: DASA, Rossier, ESR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I ride at the sand dunes. And I mostly just cruise and jump. I just got back into riding, haven't done it in like 10 years. These 450r's come stock with alot of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11H Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 (edited) I've already been all over the 450R site, and they all say that white bro's aren't that good. I've seen dyno charts that have convinced me. I just wanted to bring up the topic on here since the site has seemed kinda dead lately and I wanted the SS bro's opinions. So far I'm thinkin about DASA, Rossier, ESR or HMF I just got back into riding so thats why I'm kinda lost. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Kyle, I know most of the builders and pipe fabbers ... To give you a choice on a good pipe, I need to know your mods and your intended mods, because to get the MOST out of a pipe, I need to know where and how your motor makes power ... In that, if you want the BEST pipe for overall performance that will make it actually feel like you made an improvement, the SPARKS RACING 2" core X5 pipe would be my choice ... (I have run 4 or 5 different pipes on my R and I run the sparks X6 witht he 2 1/4" BIG core) ... The pipe has some things other pipes on the market don't have, on dyno results you DO NOT want to look at HP max or curve, you want to look at the pipe that makes the BROADEST and BIGGEST (flat and overall) torque curve ... The TQ that comes on earliest, holds the longest and is broadest is what accelerates a quad ... NOT max HP However, if you still have the stock cam, you are wasting your money on a full system ... In this case, go with the HMF slip-on sport or the DR. D (dubach racing) slip-on ... The stock Honda header is very adequate with a slip-on if you have not upgraded the stock cam ... and I wouldn't think you have increased compression without doing the cam ... my .02 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So far I am all stock. I don't think I wanna go crazy moding the quad. If I do I cam it won't be for a couple seasons. For now I am just thinkin about exhaust, jetting, and air box/filter. What are your thoughts on these systems: DASA, Rossier, ESR? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> what year is your R, and where and how do you like to ride it? (revved out, lugging it, dunes, trails, MX, XC, what?) Edited November 29, 2006 by 11H (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Its a 2005, I ride at the dunes and I'm usually lugging it. It gets pretty clunky sometimes. Its either lugging in 3rd or revved out in 2nd it seems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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