WilsonSSS04 Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I am thinking of getting the TR 224/224 .563/.563 112 lsa like detjoe also. Other than push rods and LS6 springs what else is needed or should I have on the motor before the cam? I have a bone stock LQ9 and will be getting a TC as soon as I understand the TC thing further. I suppose headers would be a must? Are the performance gains/losses worth it in a DD with a cam? I am a performance guy and wouldn't mind a loss in mpg for some grunt. Plus my dad just bought a 06 Stang and I want to put the smack down on his ass! My thoughts were as follows, Get a Zippy Kit with a TBTC (I think) as my first step. Then headers/exhaust and the cam. I want to build a nice N/A motor with enough HP/TQ (425-475rwhp) to take down most enemies on the street, but I need direction. In other words I need a Obe-one-Kanobe! I realize Headers and a cam are not gonna get me to my goal but I need ideas from guys with ideas(cough)! Anyways enough rambling, add what you would like. I'm learning alot just need to learn more as far as my motor goes. What can be added without serious mods, heads, etc. and get me to my goal. Cost effective HP is what I'm looking for. Don't have the $$ for a SC or Pro-Charger ATM so I think building the motor is the best choice for me. My wrists' are gonna fall of now, thanks for reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wody Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 i think Obe-one would say "slow down, clear your mind and do a search" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjoe Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Look at my post it has some part #'s for the install kit. I dont know your $$ but do the trans stuff first, shift kit, Torqueconverter...then get the cam. If you dont tow or use the truck then you might want a higher stall..which would let you run a bigger cam... Read the LS1tech.com how to on cams... I would wait because IMO the L92 stuff is going to be real nice and not to expensive one some kits/giltches are worked out. oh yea and dont forget to ge t a tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonSSS04 Posted May 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Look at my post it has some part #'s for the install kit. I dont know your $$ but do the trans stuff first, shift kit, Torqueconverter...then get the cam. If you dont tow or use the truck then you might want a higher stall..which would let you run a bigger cam... Read the LS1tech.com how to on cams... I would wait because IMO the L92 stuff is going to be real nice and not to expensive one some kits/giltches are worked out. oh yea and dont forget to ge t a tune I did read the how to on cams... I'm just asking if I need to upgrade other parts/areas of the motor first before I add the cam. I know what I need for the cam install and how to do it. Asking for ideas really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I would say you have the basis covered to start with. Don't try to do alot at once. That leads to problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Don't try to do alot at once. That leads to problems. Good advice. I remember a while back when I still had the Radix. Did heads/cam/oil pump/double timing chain. It made sense to do it all at once, but I only had a small window (1.5 days) to complete it (while wife was out of town) and that made me rush. As a result I had a small engine fire that scared the living crap out of me. Luckily all my wiring was saved by all the taping they do. It could have been worse. Whatever you end up doing, give yourself plenty of time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNE Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Do the cam last if you are working on a budget. You can do everything else you listed (converter, shift kit, headers, etc. on a stock tune temporarily, but you will need to tune after the cam due to driveability issues. I did the same stuff with the cam and tune being last. The biggest gain for the money will be the shift kit and converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonSSS04 Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Great info! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivierakid55 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 im gonna disagree with the biggest gain being the shift kit and converter. yes they both make for better driveability but as far as pure numbers a cam and proper tuning is going to yeild much more horsepower gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05VHO Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 It's going to be tough to get the kind of power your looking for. You should look into texas speed ported l92 heads, you get can get them in 67cc I think to bring your compression up. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonSSS04 Posted May 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 So lets say for conversation I got the texas speed heads ($1500.00) plus a cam(400.00) what kind of hp/tq gains can I expect. I realize that will depend on my cam choice, but lets just say the one I mentioned earlier. Just give me a low end guess. Mabey for people that already have done the head/cam swap can give me their gains and what heads and cam they used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05VHO Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 I did tsp ported & polished 317's and the tsp 224/224 .581/.581 112lsa. I ended up with something like 381rwhp with long tubes also. This was with completely stock trans and torque convertor. So there may have been more power had I changed to something else. You should look into a used maggie. You can get them fairly reasonable around here pretty often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonSSS04 Posted May 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 I did tsp ported & polished 317's and the tsp 224/224 .581/.581 112lsa. I ended up with something like 381rwhp with long tubes also. This was with completely stock trans and torque convertor. So there may have been more power had I changed to something else. You should look into a used maggie. You can get them fairly reasonable around here pretty often. I hear ya on the maggie but gettin' 3-4k to drop on it is hard. Always seems if you spend a little here, a little there doesn't seem like that much, but you spend the same in the end. Plus I would need header's, exhaust, etc., which would bring the total up alot higher. Know what I mean? It's too bad the maggie kit dosen't come with everything you need to make it run at peak performance. Could I run the maggie on stock everything?? Or does it need a good exhaust? Anyways, what did you end up spending on the heads and cam?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wody Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 yes you can run the radix on a stock engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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