1 Fast SS Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Thanks guys. I'm not sure why the rods didn't changed. I guess Frank didn't think they needed to. I'm just going to get a TB converter for now, and a Zippy shift kit. I don't want to start putting to much money into it. One of my friends might be selling his 1970 SS Chevelle with a 454 crate motor that he's been restoring. So I want to save up for my hot rod. I'm hoping to see a 13.9 Mike. That's a pretty big jump from a 14.5 to a 13.9 though with just a cam swap, but anything is possible.. I'm gonna use Franks DR's to get some traction, and give a shot on May 16th. I'll let you guys how I did, but it's going to be in the 90's so I might not do so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayed99 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Thanks guys. I'm not sure why the rods didn't changed. I guess Frank didn't think they needed to. I'm just going to get a TB converter for now, and a Zippy shift kit. I don't want to start putting to much money into it. One of my friends might be selling his 1970 SS Chevelle with a 454 crate motor that he's been restoring. So I want to save up for my hot rod. I'm hoping to see a 13.9 Mike. That's a pretty big jump from a 14.5 to a 13.9 though with just a cam swap, but anything is possible.. I'm gonna use Franks DR's to get some traction, and give a shot on May 16th. I'll let you guys how I did, but it's going to be in the 90's so I might not do so well. like I said invest another 100 bux for insurance..or you might be replacing a collapsed lifter or a broken valve spring soon...Trust me I've been wrenching on the gen3/4 engines since 98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 i agree on replacing the PR and if i were you get a better converter than the TB one, like a PI or yanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionRaceWorks Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Welp I did put in the cam but I don't see the reason to put pushrods in they don't solve any problems that are present.. Zo6's run a cam thats fairly stout and turn more RPM than our trucks are intended to with the same ball welded pushrods. I repeatedly beat the living crap out of my truck with the dart heads and cam with Stock rockers and pushrods for over 16k miles and had no issues. I was shifting at 6800 at the track and ran it down to low 13's no boost. It truly is personal preference but I don't see the point in putting another 100 bucks into a job that can me a fairly inexpensive weekend warrior project with the right tools. For the budget minded guy the Zo6 springs a cam and gaskets is not all that expensive. The special tools required for the swap.. the spring compressor,air holds crank puller and installer.. thats stuff not everyone is gonna have but the level where Terry's truck is at right now I feel very confident in his setup not only the assembly parts but also the tune. The truck has tremendous street manners and sounds absolutely wicked. Like I told him from the get go. I don't like building trailer queens or track only trucks. I build trucks that are meant to be driven thats why I do things the way I do. All in all I am glad that he is happy with the setup and I am really excited to get it to the track next weekend and give her a beating. If he is really nice I will loan him my drag radials. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Fast SS Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Thanks Frank, BTW, I'm always nice. I'll call you on Friday. I've gotta run some gas out of the truck today, so I can put some 100+ octane in it. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 well push rods arent always needed if you have the right legnth , but i would have definatly made sure i had the right legnth rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z06 DREAMING Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Congrats on the cam Ty, sounds good. The TB converter will do well with it but a TT2800 or TT3000 will get you out of the hole a bit better. FWIW, I too would have thrown hardened PRs in also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Fast SS Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Thanks Lance, but I really don't drive it much. Only once or twice a week, so maybe they wiill be ok. Like I said before, I trust Frank in his wisdom. But if something does happen, then I'll just fix it. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayed99 Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 the stock push rods are a weak point in fact in the last 3 months I know of 3 LSX powered cars/trucks that have broke due to push rod failure....on collapsed a lifter and then ended up grinding the crap out of the cam....also a TBSS that bent the push rod which broke a spring and dropped the valve. Thats fine if you dont change them out, but hey if you break down dont expect me to keep my mouth shut so I can say I told you so. Thanks Lance, but I really don't drive it much. Only once or twice a week, so maybe they wiill be ok. Like I said before, I trust Frank in his wisdom. But if something does happen, then I'll just fix it.Terryor buy a new motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionRaceWorks Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 the stock push rods are a weak point in fact in the last 3 months I know of 3 LSX powered cars/trucks that have broke due to push rod failure....on collapsed a lifter and then ended up grinding the crap out of the cam....also a TBSS that bent the push rod which broke a spring and dropped the valve. Thats fine if you dont change them out, but hey if you break down dont expect me to keep my mouth shut so I can say I told you so.or buy a new motor You know you guys are kind of pissing me off. The guy posted up a clip of his cam because he is proud of how it sounds. When I used to be on this board daily maybe just a year ago.. if that.. people supported one another about what they did to their trucks. And granted.. not everyone agreed with what they did. But no one sat here and whined about it. Listen. You said your peice. You don't like that he's using stock push rods the point has been made. You wanna say I told you so? Say it to me. If you have nothing else to say regarding why he posted this thread then just leave it be. Stop poking at shit the point has been made. If he bends a rod or drops a valve. I will personally buy him a new ****ing engine how's that? I don't see you offering up to do cam swaps for 400 bucks in 1 day you start doing that you can gladly have all my buisness. And if you think I took this wrong then too damn bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbeast ss Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 wow wow play nice now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayed99 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) You know you guys are kind of pissing me off. The guy posted up a clip of his cam because he is proud of how it sounds. When I used to be on this board daily maybe just a year ago.. if that.. people supported one another about what they did to their trucks. And granted.. not everyone agreed with what they did. But no one sat here and whined about it. Listen. You said your peice. You don't like that he's using stock push rods the point has been made. You wanna say I told you so? Say it to me. If you have nothing else to say regarding why he posted this thread then just leave it be. Stop poking at shit the point has been made. If he bends a rod or drops a valve. I will personally buy him a new ****ing engine how's that? I don't see you offering up to do cam swaps for 400 bucks in 1 day you start doing that you can gladly have all my buisness. And if you think I took this wrong then too damn bad. I apologize if I offended anyone here. It does sound nice...I like it. I just dont want to see another thread in the future talking about a bent push rod thats all. and bud I do them for 250.00 lol in 5 hours. Go ahead ask the members here about my work and also my hospitality. you have anything else to say to me pm me and I will glady give you my number so we can discuss why your upset... I have also helped dozens and dozens of members here with their projects and taken the time to take good care of them. I understand I was a bit out of line. Have a good night Edited May 15, 2008 by sprayed99 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobradh77 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Frank and Danny y'all need to hug...lol Both are a tremendous source of knowledge on this site...It all got a little out of line but nothing i saw was bad enough for anyone to get butt hurt over..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayed99 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Frank and Danny y'all need to hug...lol Both are a tremendous source of knowledge on this site...It all got a little out of line but nothing i saw was bad enough for anyone to get butt hurt over..... hmm butt hurt... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wody Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Frank and Danny y'all need to hug...lol Both are a tremendous source of knowledge on this site...It all got a little out of line but nothing i saw was bad enough for anyone to get butt hurt over..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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