RockHead Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=...&id=6325577 http://phillyfirenews.com/content/firewire/detail/1543/ Conshohocken is about 10-15 miles away from My Fire Station . Dan (FireMan31) called me up and said that he seen it on the News In NY . I'm on Call SOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I can not make it Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70chevy03ss Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 wow thats crazy 6 alarms.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) 6 alarms, "calling all hands"........a total understatement there. That's what happens when....... 1- the OIC did not do/does not have a good size up 2- you do not have adequate protection of your exposures 3- there is insufficient manpower 4- advanced fire prior to arrival 5- limited water supply Also, these buildings burn fast/collapse quickly when..... 1- there is a common cockloft 2- light weight wood truss roof(w/BS stamped gusset plates) 3- wood I-beam floor joists(fireman killers) 4- heavy fire load I hate to monday morning quarterback this fire, you can kind of tell what happened...Radiant Heat is a killer in these circumstances......that's why buildings this large should be fire proof(Type 1)/fire resistive(Type 2) construction, not friggin made of sticks like those buildings were. Edited August 14, 2008 by Fireman31 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockHead Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 It took them 5 Hours to put it under Contral. It also went to 8 Alarm when it was all dun It was the Bigist Fire In Montgomery County History that is what they are saying .......There 40 Fire Company and 800 Fire Fighters ............ It look like slow start to put on the water on the Fire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holty Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 looks like some scary stuff there. My house catching on fire is my worst nightmare. you guys are very brave for doing what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superredss Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 wow that building just fell down like dominoes! Thats crazy but thats how cheap things are built these days. I would like to know how many codes they broke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hey Mark, did you see the one in Wind Gap PA at the recycling plant last weekend? 12 fire departments were called to the fire. The place is 10 mile from me and I could smell the plastic burning. Burned for 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankg42 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 When I saw this on the news this morning, the first thing I said to Jackie was "I wonder if Mark was there?". They said a number of firemen were hurt, so I was concerned. Thanks for the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00silverad0 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 6 alarms, "calling all hands"........a total understatement there. That's what happens when....... 1- the OIC did not do/does not have a good size up 2- you do not have adequate protection of your exposures 3- there is insufficient manpower 4- advanced fire prior to arrival 5- limited water supply Also, these buildings burn fast/collapse quickly when..... 1- there is a common cockloft 2- light weight wood truss roof(w/BS stamped gusset plates) 3- wood I-beam floor joists(fireman killers) 4- heavy fire load I hate to monday morning quarterback this fire, you can kind of tell what happened...Radiant Heat is a killer in these circumstances......that's why buildings this large should be fire proof(Type 1)/fire resistive(Type 2) construction, not friggin made of sticks like those buildings were. The new thing for construction companies in South Florida is "tilt wall construction". Walls are already assembled and brought in via 18 wheeler. These also pose a large threat to emergency crews working inside a building. I've seen a complete warehouse complex complete in construction be assembled in 2 days. Pretty scary. Not quite as bad as the old style northern wood homes, but it does pose quite a bad possibility for collapse under stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 The new thing for construction companies in South Florida is "tilt wall construction". Walls are already assembled and brought in via 18 wheeler. These also pose a large threat to emergency crews working inside a building. I've seen a complete warehouse complex complete in construction be assembled in 2 days. Pretty scary. Not quite as bad as the old style northern wood homes, but it does pose quite a bad possibility for collapse under stress. Oh it's here too, recently I watched a house near me get trucked into the neighborhood in sections, then assembled in around 3 days time. This is why size-up and pre-plans are such a big deal, you never know what hairy sh*t you are getting into......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmahan Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 wow that was a big fire. thanks to all of you firemen who risk your life. i pray for those who lost...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 ...1- there is a common cockloft ... Huh. I had to look that one up, never heard that term before; I've heard of a cockblock, but never a cockloft. RockHead - man that was impressive Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) Huh. I had to look that one up, never heard that term before; I've heard of a cockblock, but never a cockloft. Mr. P. Cockloft = a common attic between buildings or sections of a building ...just to clarify that for everyone Edited August 14, 2008 by Fireman31 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Cockloft = a common attic between buildings or sections of a building ...just to clarify that for everyone Oh ok good, because some might have an initial thought that a cockloft is what a fluffer provides on adult movie sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00silverad0 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) wow that was a big fire. thanks to all of you firemen who risk your life. i pray for those who lost...... Our job isnt easy or safe to be exact, but compared to what you and the Rangers gotta do... My hats off to you guys. Edited August 14, 2008 by SSSmoke Eater (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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