FwyFlyr Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 So, I get picked off by a City Cop with Laser. 53/35..Construction Zone. The Ticket is full of mistakes....wrote 97 Silverado...Passenger Car!!! At least he got the color right. This is a Major Ticket. I'm inclined to Fight it or at least talk to the DA about a deal. I mean I was with traffic, the construction is on the other side of 2 concrete barriers, and besides that if he cannot properly identify my '03SSS how can I be sure he cited the correct vehicle or that he did not misread the Laser? Quote
black00chev Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 He wrote down the wrong vehicle information, fight it!!! I belive if its not right they cant ticket you. Quote
F1SSS Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 I would try to strike a deal, and let them know the ticket has errors (bring in your registration). Ive never been to court for speeding though. Quote
Jond983 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 you're lucky you didn't go to jail..anything 15 and over and youre toast Quote
black00chev Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Out our way, its 20 and over... 20 and over gets you a civil penalty where u have to pay almost $400 a year for 3 years, take driver improvement class, suspended license, and pay the ticket. Quote
kweber1911 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 i would take it in as well and show then...should get out of it, your vehicles not on the ticket. Quote
Turbocoop Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 Out our way, its 20 and over... 20 and over gets you a civil penalty where u have to pay almost $400 a year for 3 years, take driver improvement class, suspended license, and pay the ticket. wow thats retarded Quote
misterp Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) OK I feel inclined to chastise you here, going more than 10-over in town (35 zone) is very dangerous for you because 99% of drivers CANNOT judge speed and will think you are only going 35 and pull right out in front of you. That said, I think you're screwed because the courts will not expect officers to be automotive experts so they let a lot of shit slide - if the officer got on the ticket the essential facts that (1) it was a truck, (2) correct license plate number, (3) correct color then that's close enough for the judge. If you take it to hearing the judge will basically ask "do you own a black truck with a tag SSPEDN" and when you admit 'yes I do' then he'll say that's close enough for government work and hand down sentence - *if* you were only doing 6-7 mph over then he might let it slide, but 18-over in a 35 zone you can count on an ass-whippin. Mr. P. PS - "Passenger Car" in some jurisdictions is a legal term, meaning any vehicle under xxxx-pounds curb weight that the state does not collect PUC taxes on (commercial vehicles). Our 1/2-ton trucks technically are passenger cars, in a legal sense. You gotta think like a lawyer when it comes to reading a ticket. Edited September 19, 2008 by Mr. P. (see edit history) Quote
ANGRYGREG Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 WHERE I LIVE IF YOU CONTEST THE TICKET AND THE COP WHO WROTE THE TICKET DOES NOT SHOW UP FOR THE COURT DATE THEY WILL DISMISS IT. MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME LUCK... Quote
mike1booth Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 go to court to... theyl atleast cut it in half bc you went, if you make a good case they might do more for you... its ridiclous that the dumbie obviously cant read a registration (its part of their JOB) and if they cant perform their job correctly they need to find something else to do Quote
70chevy03ss Posted September 20, 2008 Report Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) I say fight it. Like booth said they might cut it in half. But he did get you on laser. If it said estimated on laser doing XXXX then you might win. There really isn't a way to beat a laser, but at the same time it was a posted construction zone.. Edited September 20, 2008 by sick03ssbad70velle (see edit history) Quote
brobradh77 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Posted September 21, 2008 WHERE I LIVE IF YOU CONTEST THE TICKET AND THE COP WHO WROTE THE TICKET DOES NOT SHOW UP FOR THE COURT DATE THEY WILL DISMISS IT. MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME LUCK... I know your Angry but do you ever not have the caps lock on? Quote
Zath Posted September 22, 2008 Report Posted September 22, 2008 Best way is to write a letter to the DA of your county and explain some story on why you were going fast and how you need your license and can't afford it and blah blah. Some sob story, maybe they'll lower it. Quote
FwyFlyr Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Posted September 22, 2008 OK I feel inclined to chastise you here, going more than 10-over in town (35 zone) is very dangerous for you because 99% of drivers CANNOT judge speed and will think you are only going 35 and pull right out in front of you. That said, I think you're screwed because the courts will not expect officers to be automotive experts so they let a lot of shit slide - if the officer got on the ticket the essential facts that (1) it was a truck, (2) correct license plate number, (3) correct color then that's close enough for the judge. If you take it to hearing the judge will basically ask "do you own a black truck with a tag SSPEDN" and when you admit 'yes I do' then he'll say that's close enough for government work and hand down sentence - *if* you were only doing 6-7 mph over then he might let it slide, but 18-over in a 35 zone you can count on an ass-whippin. Mr. P. PS - "Passenger Car" in some jurisdictions is a legal term, meaning any vehicle under xxxx-pounds curb weight that the state does not collect PUC taxes on (commercial vehicles). Our 1/2-ton trucks technically are passenger cars, in a legal sense. You gotta think like a lawyer when it comes to reading a ticket. Ok, P I hear ya....The Fact that the Ticket was filled out incorrectly is not my main point here. A. ) I say I was not in a Construction Zone based on the Speed Limit Sign and that the Speed Limit is actually 45 mph there. ( Illinois requires Construction Speed Zones to have speed limit clearly marked and have a statement attached stating 375.00 minimum fine as part of said sign.) The picture is of the roadway at about the point where he indicated he hit me with Laser., Note the Shell Station at the bottom of the hill. Also note that I am within 500 feet of the sign. B. ) Illinois law that says you cannot be cited by electronic means within 500 feet of the posted speed limit with 2 exceptions; 1. School Zone, 2. Construction Zone. This picture shows his position when he Lasered me. You will note that the Construction Speed Zone is properly marked in the other direction. You will also note that his view is limited coming toward him so that he could not have Lasered me more than 500 feet back from the 45 mph sign. You can see the back of that sign in this picture as well. Bottom line is that I will accept a ticket for 53 / 45. But, therein lies another issue. Since I was within 500 feet of the Speed Limit Sign, He cannot use Laser. There is the Conundrum. I agree you have to think like a Laywer. I think the ticket is technically incorrect so I must attack it is the same manner. It looks like your basic speed trap to me. btw: there is a box on the ticket for p/u truck and since I have a "B" plate, it is specifically a pickup truck. Quote
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