Les Hall Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Any of you guys have pictures of low profile tires on the stock SS wheels? I was planning on doing a 2/4 drop & getting some black wheels with a polished lip,,but since I've just discovered how crapy my current tires are for traction,,,I'm thinking about just doing the drop & adding a set of the new BFGoodrich g-force tires,,and I think the stockers look sooo much better with low profile tires. I know the look I am trying to get,,I just don't know about the size,,so if ya got pics,,tire size would be a big help. Thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here ya go: the wheels are from Centerline, but they're stock size 20 x 8.5 -and- stock offset; tires are Pirelli Scorpion A 295/45 VR20. Wheels, Tires, and McGaughys Deluxe drop was a very early mod for me so the truck has been like this a long time now, here's some of the more photogenic shots from the last few years: Lined-up with the guys at Hooters (for comparison): The drop is 2.75 in front, 3.75 in rear; the tires drop the truck another 1-inch as well. The tires are small enough that you will have to re-tune for the size difference, the truck will act like it has 4.56 gears and you also loose just over 1/2-mpg as well. But damn I love how it looks Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20_blkss_04 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 hey guys i dont mean to thread hijack here but could you get any strait on pics from behind the rear tires to see how wide they are!!?? i really like they way the reuck looks mr.p!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Hall Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here ya go: the wheels are from Centerline, but they're stock size 20 x 8.5 -and- stock offset; tires are Pirelli Scorpion A 295/45 VR20. Wheels, Tires, and McGaughys Deluxe drop was a very early mod for me so the truck has been like this a long time now, here's some of the more photogenic shots from the last few years: Lined-up with the guys at Hooters (for comparison): The drop is 2.75 in front, 3.75 in rear; the tires drop the truck another 1-inch as well. The tires are small enough that you will have to re-tune for the size difference, the truck will act like it has 4.56 gears and you also loose just over 1/2-mpg as well. But damn I love how it looks Mr. P. Thanx Mr P. thats the look I'm after,, and that pic with the other trucks shows just how much a few inches & some low profiles on 20"s really changes the look of it, 2.75 up front huh? did you use drop spindles/coils? and leafs or shackles & hangers out back? I'm planning on going Beltech 2"/4" drop spindles & shackles & hangers. now if I go with that size tire,,and adjust for the tire size with my HyperJUNK handheld,,Will it still act like 4.56 gears? that with those BFGoodrich G-Force tires may give me alot better launch huh? well thanx again for the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss wrecker Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Mr. P's truck is sitting in my carport next to mine and makes my truck look like a slightly lifted 4x4. pics later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20_blkss_04 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 ^^^ plaese doo i want o see how wide those things arE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss wrecker Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) couple pics to show the difference in height of a stock height truck with 305/40r22s and Mr.P's 2.75/3.75 dropped one with 295/45r20s Edited November 24, 2008 by ss wrecker (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Thanx Mr P. thats the look I'm after,,and that pic with the other trucks shows just how much a few inches & some low profiles on 20"s really changes the look of it, 2.75 up front huh? did you use drop spindles/coils? and leafs or shackles & hangers out back? I'm planning on going Beltech 2"/4" drop spindles & shackles & hangers. now if I go with that size tire,,and adjust for the tire size with my HyperJUNK handheld,,Will it still act like 4.56 gears? that with those BFGoodrich G-Force tires may give me alot better launch huh? well thanx again for the pics Thanks for the compliment! Front = 2" dropped spindle + 1" drop keys; the front-end barely aligns, the needles are in the yellow almost in the red, but it doesn't chew through tires. Bumpsteer is an issue, I want to try the DJM tie rod flip kit. Rear = drop hangers and drop shackles, was a total f'n disaster. The rear pinion was off 9-degrees, no amount of shimming will fix that so we were forced to cut/reweld the spring perches to the axle, major PITA and there's still a driveline vibration because I think the geometry at the front of the driveline is out of phase, I dunno. It is still an issue. Yes the truck will behave like it has more gear, because the tires are 2" shorter than stock. It eats into your highway mileage substantially. But when combined with a GOOD converter it's a blast around town heheh Mr. P. One other thing - the 295's are about the widest that you can fit on the stock rim width, and there is a lot of "shoulder" in the tire, you won't curb your rims that's for sure!! Found another pic of the truck, right after drop was installed, it's the only one I have showing the width of the front tire (which is substantial, like 13+ inches): Another pic, Dan (sprayed99) took this one: Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr. P. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20_blkss_04 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 wow so wen you get the hanger/shackles it will mess up your drivetrain??? i have shackles now and was lookin ginto getting some hangers!!?? wat do i have to do then to fix this pinion problem i know people have done hanger and shackles without problems! wat havent they told us!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 wow so wen you get the hanger/shackles it will mess up your drivetrain??? i have shackles now and was lookin ginto getting some hangers!!?? wat do i have to do then to fix this pinion problem i know people have done hanger and shackles without problems! wat havent they told us!? I think it has to do with the brand you choose; I used the McGaughys and ... never again. I believe it has to do with design of the front hanger, but I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTMD8R_SS Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think it has to do with the brand you choose; I used the McGaughys and ... never again. I believe it has to do with design of the front hanger, but I am not sure. Me and slammedbowtie run the Mcgaughy hangers/shakles whit no problems. We used the top hole in the hanger and in your how-to you used the lower hole maybe that had something to do whit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Me and slammedbowtie run the Mcgaughy hangers/shakles whit no problems. We used the top hole in the hanger and in your how-to you used the lower hole maybe that had something to do whit it? Right after install I switched and use the top hole; the truck had a driveline vibration so bad it was like a u-joint about to blow, after we rotated the axle it still has the vibration but now only at 72-73-mph. Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdaddy420 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I used djm and had to put 3* shims from belltech. Put it on the pinion angle gauge at my dealership I used to work at and it was in spec. That sucks about your's mr P, but mine has no driveline issues. It also has alot to do with the how much the front end is lowered, and I think it also has to do with the truck in general. I have talked to people who have had to shim the hell out of it, and some who aren't running shims at all with no vibration problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I used djm and had to put 3* shims from belltech. Put it on the pinion angle gauge at my dealership I used to work at and it was in spec. That sucks about your's mr P, but mine has no driveline issues. It also has alot to do with the how much the front end is lowered, and I think it also has to do with the truck in general. I have talked to people who have had to shim the hell out of it, and some who aren't running shims at all with no vibration problems. Yeah I've heard the same. For a long time now I've wanted to remove the McGaughys stuff and run all DJM, not right now but in a couple years I'll get to it; in the meantime I'm on the lookout for a stock axle from an 03-04 truck since I heavily modified mine Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Hall Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks for the compliment! Front = 2" dropped spindle + 1" drop keys; the front-end barely aligns, the needles are in the yellow almost in the red, but it doesn't chew through tires. Bumpsteer is an issue, I want to try the DJM tie rod flip kit. Rear = drop hangers and drop shackles, was a total f'n disaster. The rear pinion was off 9-degrees, no amount of shimming will fix that so we were forced to cut/reweld the spring perches to the axle, major PITA and there's still a driveline vibration because I think the geometry at the front of the driveline is out of phase, I dunno. It is still an issue. Yes the truck will behave like it has more gear, because the tires are 2" shorter than stock. It eats into your highway mileage substantially. But when combined with a GOOD converter it's a blast around town heheh Mr. P. One other thing - the 295's are about the widest that you can fit on the stock rim width, and there is a lot of "shoulder" in the tire, you won't curb your rims that's for sure!! Found another pic of the truck, right after drop was installed, it's the only one I have showing the width of the front tire (which is substantial, like 13+ inches): Another pic, Dan (sprayed99) took this one: thanks for the info,,,I wander if the vibration issue has something to do with it being awd? my last truck was a 2000 ex-cab silverado, I went with the beltech 2" drop spindles & beltech shackles +4" hangers in rear,,,,I never had any vibrations, but I did have to use the shims & the drivline alignment kit because the two piece drivshaft looked like a V after the drop,,,thats the main part I'm hating about dropping the SS, that and having to lower the tank to remove that one bolt, & grinding off those dang rivits!,,,I guess I'm not looking forward to it at all huh,,but worth the end result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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