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Well I got most of my stuff for my Alpine Demo order. the pxa-H800 is B/O until Jan and my subs are not in yet. but the rest is pretty much done. I sent my 701 processor out and had a new digital board installed so I can use it in the meantime. I am still waiting for the LP bracket for the back up camera as well but here are some pics of the progress. I still have to install the edges to amp rack board, wire the leds (blue) and then cover it and final fit and finish. I hope I get it done before I put it away for the winter :)

 

Rgds,

 

Dave

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Hey Man,

 

That processor is 5.1 so I have the front components running active so 2 channels to the tweeters 2 channels to the mids 2 channel to the rears and the the amp on the right in the picture is for the subs currently it is the slim 10" pioneer which is really nice but I have two Alpine swr-t10's on order and then I will build my sub box and finally tune it all completely, it sounds amazing right now but once time alignment and bass focus is complete it will be 100%. I still may mod out the 4x6 in the rear and add the 5" coax. The problem with all the speakers is the low cut off points are different and it is very hard to tune the sub. IE the rear are 70Hz and the center channel is 100+ Hz. I currently have it setup at 80Hz and 90Hz at 24db for the LP on the center and rears. Tuning is a pita, the new 800 processor which I have on order is done with a laptop and I cannot wait. for it. My only complaint with alpine; and I have been running alpine since 1989, when I bought my first system for my Monte Carlo SS. Their sources are not balanced, I.E. when you play a CD it's louder than when you switch to radio or ipod or usb etc...

 

Rgds,

 

Dave

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Thanks for the kudos guys. Pauiguy the backup cam is the alpine hce-117D, I did not bother with the active system. the speakers in the rear are 4x6 INF reference and the front comps are alpine SPR-60C, the new ones with the hamr surround and the larger silk dome tweeter. I had inf reference in the front and I played with them a lot but could not make them sound good at any crossover point or roll off, installed the alpine and set the cross overs at 3.2 at 18 and 80 at 18 and they sound great, better mid-bass, softer highs, warm and not too bright on the top I actually like these better than the X series you do not need alot of power to drive them and make them sound good. truth be told I really miss my Focals in the front. but spending a couple hundred compared to a grand I REALLY LIKE.

 

rgds,

 

Dave

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I hear ya. I run focals but I got them for free. I wish we sold alpine at my work, I haven't be able to play with the newer stuff. It's always been my favorite.

That processor looks like it'll be really cool. you'll have to let us know how it is.

I was asking about the backup camera cuz I haven't decided on one yet. there's a company that makes one built in the tailgate handle that looks nice and that's a better placement for a camera anyway...looking down on the bumper instead of level with it. but its not cheap but a good camera isn't cheap anyway.

 

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I'm not a huge fan of bi-amping separates myself. I find you end up with too much power to the tweeter and not enough for the driver.

If you were to bridge a 4 channel amp down to 2, you'll triple or quadruple the power that the woofer gets. I like the sound of a nice overdriven component set. I've just never had much luck with amp crossovers I guess. You need a nice processor/crossover/eq to get it to sound right.

 

Did you dynamat the hell out of the doors?

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Paulguy,

 

Yes I agree you cannot bi-amp without a processor (way to much power) and the really nice thing about either the 701 or the 800 processors is you can first rta or spl your 5 speakers to get the levels about the same around 65-70 in our trucks, I could not get 75db and then all the speaker are pretty much the same volume at your preferred listening levels once that is complete you can set all your speakers to small or large and finally you can cut some DB to each speaker in the XO settings I have the tweeters at -3db and they are still a bit overpowering but only with really really bright vocals I know there are reference disks but I have about 10 tracks that I use to setup systems but for me it is all about the music and I listen to a lot of different music. I use Leonard Cohen Live "Joan of Arc" , Mary Black "Columbus" , Natalie McMaster "Drunken Piper" , Trisha Yearwood "The Song Remembers When" for all around as she has an awesome range in here voice; Too bad Garth made her a backup singer. I really like Kid Rock's "Blue Jeans and Rosary" he has really nice tones in his voice when he does songs like this and finally Sarah's "Angel". See I told ya I had weird music taste. I ran into my Niece at a store one day and I was picking up the new Eminiem CD, and she was completely FREAKED OUT that I listen to some eminiem. Saturday Night I listened to Chilliwack, Al Stewart and STYX ON VINYL - LOL. Ya all those clicks and pops and white noise.

 

There are P & G EQ's in the processor and I have not even gone there yet.

 

As for Dynamat Yes I did the doors, I covered and wrapped the speaker openings as well as all the plastic seams, the surround as well as the speaker baffle to spacer brackets the same in the rears. I reused that GM underpad on the amp rack surround, So far no rattles and I can basically turn the HU to MAX with zero listening distortion with some VERY heavy bass I will get some xmax on the current sub but that will stop with the new subs and when I reset the gain on that amp. I still may take the doors apart and put another piece behind the cone on the outer panel.

 

I like all to be equal so if I am listening at low levels I want the bass fill to be equal and in proportion to the same if I was listening at high levels; if that makes sense. To be honest I wish you could buy amps without all the filters and crossovers in em. like home audio 5 channels plug em in hook em up and tune at the pre-amp - DONE. It would be much easier. I had to LAUGH I returned the kicker slim 10" sub to BB in Ottawa and the installer had to test it to make sure it worked we got to talking about it after and I told him that I preferred the pioneer slim model over the kicker and he was adiment that it did not matter and bass was non-directional and there should be no difference blah blah blah, I felt like saying come over to my house and I will play you some music and a couple movie tracks if you can find my sub in the room I'll give ya beer or two. first order 2nd order, reflections etc,,, it all makes a difference that is why people spend 2000$ plus on M&K Sub-woofers when you could still get them, Because they were the best subs ever built hands-down. If I could figure out how two put two 10's in one box, one down firing and one front firing in a push-pull config and make it fit under the seat I would be trying it.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

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