56chevywagon Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 I've never heard of these, but they look pretty good for shorties. Not a bad deal either IMO. Headers on Ebay Don't know the difference between these but... Headers on Ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 shorty's, i think id wait to find some mid-legnth's at least but hey its your money and the price isnt bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
383ss Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 if shorties weren't about worthless besides looks, I'd say go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC3 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Here I go being the newb again, but why are shorties worth the looks but not the $$? Unless this has already been discussed somewhere.. let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56chevywagon Posted January 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I wasn't really lookin into buyin them myself, but I do think that shorties are worth the money...granted they don't give the improvments of mid or long tube headers...but $300 for 12-15hp and $700 of 20-25hp...I'd say, the money is paying for the amount of hp that you want or can afford...either way, it is improving your performance hands down. This is just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 i understand where you are coming from though espeaciallly in ca where most long tibes wont pass smog , the only header i have considered are the other guys, but if money is a factor its most likely worth it, the shorties i thought hardly improve hp but that is just what i have read, no experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan06SS Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I have JBA shortys and I'll be the first to admit that there isn't much gain w/ them (probably 10-15hp) but the price on those is REALLY good... so like you said: $300 for 10-15hp or $700 for 20-25hp shortys = $20 per HP gained long tube = $28 per HP gained The shortys are a better bang for the buck IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edessa Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Check out the Edelbrock P/N 6501 and P/N 65010 and P/N 65012 Sheck out Summit Racing they carry them at good prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I've had shorties and don't think they are worth much. But, I didn't realize that until I sprung for L/Ts. You have to look at what you're getting with, say L/Ts. Most come ceramic coated - that I've seen. I spent $717 on a brand new set of ASM headers (about $50 more now). If you got a set of ceramic coated shorties, they would go for $550-$675, depending on which brand. So, going on the small end of both (ceramic coated): L/T ($770) ~ 20hp ~ $38.5 per hp Shorty ($550) ~ 10hp ~ $55 per hp Some type of coating is a must. If not, you end up with at a minimum blue headers, worst case rusted ones. Some may not care about that. But, add that coating to a set of shorty headers and you could be as little as $100 shy of a set of long-tube or mid-length - that most include coating in the price. So, you make the call. Personally, I don't think it's worth it when considering the "whole" package. NOW, mash that gas to the floor and you'll "feel" why you spent the extra money. It was to get the satisfaction of actually noticing what you did when you pressed the go pedal. And you will notice L/T headers, I asure you. What I felt when I installed my shorties was mostly me wanting to feel something to justify my time and money. I may have felt something, just wasn't sure - it certainly sounded quicker. Honestly, I don't think I could feel 10hp, and would be hard pressed to believe anyone else could either. 20 on the other hand, you'll notice. Before this truck I was a firm believer in any header. But, now that I spent just a little more in my book and crossed to the other side, so to speak, I will never consider wasting my time or money on a set of shorties. Most of the people on here that have done both, probably would agree. This is not to knock anyone that has them or to start an argument. Everyone has their own budget or reasons. Chances are, you may not know what you're missing. On the other side of it, hp is hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56chevywagon Posted January 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Just to throw in my last .02...these headers, as are much of the $300 ranged shorties are stainles steel, so, there would be no rusting or other corrosion problems...yes, I'll admit, they will blue, but imo that looks good. I will say that I prefer long tubes, but there is nothing wrong with shorties in the least. Long tubes will benefit you more if you are runnin FI or N2O. but imo, it is neglegible for stock or lightly modified engines... I'm not tryin to start anything...just my opinion from my, as zippy would put it, carberated experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Shorty headers are better than the stock manifold - that I will concede ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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