04CHASE Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 i am probably going to go with a futral cam again but i am very open to suggestions on who to go with. im going to be building a forced fed 408 soon, im planning on using stock heads for a while until i can get the money for a good set. im planning on running about 6-8 psi for boost and 10-12 psi at the track , cr, is going to be 10.0.1 . I want a beefy cam that is still driveable around town, would also like to be able to pass emissions but i think the tuning should be able to fix that when i need it! Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 I wouldn't stray from one of the best if not, the best, cam guy in the business. Good luck on the emission legal thing. I would guess a FI 408, or NA for that matter, sitting at idle would have some serious difficulty idling where it would pass emissions. I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to get that tune dialed in. A large cam would just make it that more harder. Assuming it is with a sniffer. I could be wrong. Not even sure of all of the parameters they check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 yeah we have the sniffer here , i may be able to find a "good smog shop" but sometimes they are hard to find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynss Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 ummm 244/250 .600s 112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 ummm 244/250 .600s 112 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that would be nice, but you would have to hook me up with your smog guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adams2003 Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Your definatley gonna need a hook up on smog (like I will), because there's no way your passing with your future plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 well i think i have found one through a buddy, hopefully they are still around when it comes time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSS Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Actually, I wouldn't be so sure he couldn't pass smog with the right cam and a good tune. You'd have to stay on the small side, perhaps 218/222 or 220/224 on a 116, but with a baby cam like that you could run the stock converter and have lots of torque right off idle. Your powerband would be 1500-6000 or so. The tune will be key. You'd be one of the first to try and get a 408 to pass smog that I know of. Maybe you should post this at LS1Tech as well and get their input. There is a significant CA contingent over there. What kind of F/I are you thinking about? Have you thought about a forged 370 instead of a 408? That would be easier to get past the smog cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 i have a vortech s trim, i was thinking of the 370 but a 408 isnt much more money and its going to give me more power. i plan on eventually using the t trim blower so thats another smog problem, i already have a 213/219 cam in it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSS Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 i have a vortech s trim, i was thinking of the 370 but a 408 isnt much more money and its going to give me more power. i plan on eventually using the t trim blower so thats another smog problem, i already have a 213/219 cam in it right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know dude, you don't get smogged until 5 years after your first registration....why don't you just pull the stock long block and stick in the garage for (1) when you sell the truck, or (2) smog comes up, whichever comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Ben's always had good experience with Allen Futral, but Allen gave me the goofiest cam recommendation for my 408 with the turbo (no, not a turbo cam, and it was in the low 220 range on a 112 lsa)... Never hurts to get a another opinion from other grinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 i have a vortech s trim, i was thinking of the 370 but a 408 isnt much more money and its going to give me more power. i plan on eventually using the t trim blower so thats another smog problem, i already have a 213/219 cam in it right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know dude, you don't get smogged until 5 years after your first registration....why don't you just pull the stock long block and stick in the garage for (1) when you sell the truck, or (2) smog comes up, whichever comes first. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Been there, done that; I and a bunch of friends in CA kept a beater 305-SBC smog mule for just that purpose. That poor little engine was the villiage bicycle, we had it in a couple trucks, several f-bodies, and an A-body. It was a pita to take basically an entire week every year for annual CA inspection (to swap in the motor, get it smogged, and swap back out) but we did it! Rule was that whoever used it changed the oil (not a problem as almost everyone needed a different oil pan) and you took your car to the valley to get it inspected. Then our plan hit a snag when one of the buddies borrowed the 305 for his Camaro all winter; we finally figured out that he had actually blown the top-end of his 396 and could not afford to fix or replace it with a motor of his own, and was using the small chevy in his car to get to/from work... that caused some hard feelings in the group Mr. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSS Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 i have a vortech s trim, i was thinking of the 370 but a 408 isnt much more money and its going to give me more power. i plan on eventually using the t trim blower so thats another smog problem, i already have a 213/219 cam in it right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know dude, you don't get smogged until 5 years after your first registration....why don't you just pull the stock long block and stick in the garage for (1) when you sell the truck, or (2) smog comes up, whichever comes first. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Been there, done that; I and a bunch of friends in CA kept a beater 305-SBC smog mule for just that purpose. That poor little engine was the villiage bicycle, we had it in a couple trucks, several f-bodies, and an A-body. It was a pita to take basically an entire week every year for annual CA inspection (to swap in the motor, get it smogged, and swap back out) but we did it! Rule was that whoever used it changed the oil (not a problem as almost everyone needed a different oil pan) and you took your car to the valley to get it inspected. Then our plan hit a snag when one of the buddies borrowed the 305 for his Camaro all winter; we finally figured out that he had actually blown the top-end of his 396 and could not afford to fix or replace it with a motor of his own, and was using the small chevy in his car to get to/from work... that caused some hard feelings in the group Mr. P. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Village bicycle....that's funny....back when CA had smog every year I take it. Not so anymore. Buy a new vehicle and it's 5 years before you need a smog, and every other year after that. Re: Futral....when I called him for a cam, he gave me a rec, then I called Cam Motion directly for their rec, and got the exact same specs. I thought that was mighty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I'd recomend looking into the Thunder Racing Cheater cam. There are a few others I'm sure I could come up with off hand, but You're going to want a cam that's good to about 6k or so and peaks around 5500 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynss Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 ummm 244/250 .600s 112 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that would be nice, but you would have to hook me up with your smog guy! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your definatley gonna need a hook up on smog (like I will), because there's no way your passing with your future plans. yes if i find one ill let you know ;) ditto for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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