CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 They Dyno'd it and did some other scaning. Said it shows alot of knock retard, mid throttle needs less timing, light throttle needs more timing, heavy throttle needs a bit less timing. Isn't this kinda low for HP? I have a Volant intake, B&B catback exhaust, PCMFORLESS tune and a 160* Stat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 KR will knock power down quite a bit. How much KR was there? HP numbers don't seem too bad to me for the few mods you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 They didn't say exactly how much KR, they jus said it showed alot. I've jus seen alot of stock runs on here doin almost 290, I thought I'd have more than an additional 10 rwhp with all those mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 That number isn't too bad at all considering the heat. I'm guessing it was rather hot air temperature when you had it dyno'd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sum 1 Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Sounds right on to me. Your graphs are really rough, like your tires were prolly bouncing on the dyno at high speed and that can cause the KR. Been in that same situation many times. It could be especially bad if you're running the stock rubber over 100mph; which you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Watching stock rubber distort at 150MPH on a dyno is a scary thing I think your numbers are fine. Can you quantify the amount of KR you were seeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) Yeah it was pretty hot and I do have the stock tires. I can't quantify the amount of KR, I wasn't there when they were dynoin it, they just said there was alot. They also said they could fix my timing if they tuned it...But they charge $700 for a tune and I said forget that! What would be the next mod that would get my numbers up that won't cost a fortune? Also, if thats my rwhp, what do you think my HP is comin from the engine? Edited June 28, 2006 by CaliChevyV8 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_forma Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 $700 for a tune, are they going to give you the software with it!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Nope! Isn't that a load of BS?! He said $150 of it is just for a license he has to buy, he used some new program that he said is better than LS1edit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2003SS Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 A set of long tubes or a GT2-3 cam? Or both? Those give you a good boost. And you can have either one installed for around $700-800 plus an update on your PCMforless tune. Just some thoughts... I put the pace setters on my 03 SSS and dont regret one bit, noticeable difference. I was out the door with custom pipes, high flow cats, and installation for $800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 A set of long tubes or a GT2-3 cam? Or both? Those give you a good boost. And you can have either one installed for around $700-800 plus an update on your PCMforless tune. Just some thoughts... I put the pace setters on my 03 SSS and dont regret one bit, noticeable difference. I was out the door with custom pipes, high flow cats, and installation for $800. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That sounds good! How much gains did you see? Are they alot louder than before? Does pacesetter have good quality stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) another tune PCM4less messed up, hopefully your motor doesnt get hurt cause of his tuning Edited June 28, 2006 by Quik (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 another tune PCM4less messed up, hopefully your motor does get hurt cause of tuning <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why do you say that, seems like most everyone is happy with thier PCMFORLESS tunes? Mine is good, you just can't achieve perfection through a mail order tune, all trucks are different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Why do you say that, seems like most everyone is happy with thier PCMFORLESS tunes? Mine is good, you just can't achieve perfection through a mail order tune, all trucks are different... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're exactly right In order to get a mail order tune dialed in you need to log time on your truck and send the logs to the tuner. Bottom line, for you guys unhappy with your mail order tune, if you don't want all that hp the extra timing gives I am sure the tuner will back it off some. But....don't go complaining about the seemingly lack of power when you do. Log a run at WOT and cruise and let him see how your truck is responding to the changes. From there it should be pretty damn close to where it needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliChevyV8 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Why do you say that, seems like most everyone is happy with thier PCMFORLESS tunes? Mine is good, you just can't achieve perfection through a mail order tune, all trucks are different... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're exactly right In order to get a mail order tune dialed in you need to log time on your truck and send the logs to the tuner. Bottom line, for you guys unhappy with your mail order tune, if you don't want all that hp the extra timing gives I am sure the tuner will back it off some. But....don't go complaining about the seemingly lack of power when you do. Log a run at WOT and cruise and let him see how your truck is responding to the changes. From there it should be pretty damn close to where it needs to be. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Ben, how do I log time on my truck for bryan? Not really sure what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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