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A bone stock club cab Dakota R/T runs almost the same exact time in the quarter mile as a bone stock Chevy SS. A regular cab Dakota R/T weighs a few hundred pounds less and therefore will have a .3-.4 edge in the quarter. As with any race driver experience and conditions will play the largest factor in who wins - the Chevy SS has a traction advantage with the AWD system but the Dakota has torque/weight on its side.

 

I don't know this Tony guy from NJ from a hole in the wall, but if his mods list is accurate I could see him giving the SS a distant view of his tail lights. I have a handful of bolt-ons (not heads/cam/rockers however) and run 1.2 seconds faster than the SS's at the local track, and when I spray it's absolutely no contest. However, it's really silly to try to compare apples to oranges.

 

The Chevy SS is a full-size, extended cab, AWD drivetrain truck with a brand new engine design. The Dakota R/T is a mid-size, RWD truck with an older engine/transmission which was designed for towing (in the Ram) and not racing. You pay more for the SS, but you get more out of the truck itself. I personally think the SS should have come with more oomph for the cost, but I don't think GM was thinking of a Lightning competitor when they built it.

 

Why get upset because some guy who dropped a bunch of coin beat a stock truck? The way he went through the thread was pretty immature but then again there was a lot of butt-hurt SS owners who thought their trucks should compare to someone with a bunch of mods... 10 pages worth of controversy over nothing? amazing.

 

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Why get upset because some guy who dropped a bunch of coin beat a stock truck? The way he went through the thread was pretty immature but then again there was a lot of butt-hurt SS owners who thought their trucks should compare to someone with a bunch of mods... 10 pages worth of controversy over nothing? amazing.

:withstupid: I could not of said it better. I got bored of reading after one page.

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Maybe I just don't understand why anyone other than an SS owner posts on this site. I am here to see what other guys and gals are doing to their trucks. I could give a shit about the opinion of someone who doesn't own an SS. I don't waste my time looking at other sites, why do non-owners try to contribute?

 

By the way I think everyone jumped onboard to beat up this kid is because everyone's BS detector was going crazy!

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Non-owners do contribute quite a bit to this site. One of your premiere tuners doesn't even own an SS, but contributes quite a bit to the site. You do not have to be an owner of this truck, when the engine and drivetrain is used throughout the GM line of trucks.

 

I would not call what Dakota RT posted as a contribution, however. It was something that the response was almost gauranteed, and I believe he was at least smart enough to know that it would happen. No different if one of us had gone to the Dodge site and done the same.

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I have a handful of bolt-ons (not heads/cam/rockers however) and run 1.2 seconds faster than the SS's at the local track, and when I spray it's absolutely no contest. However, it's really silly to try to compare apples to oranges.

Thats how I feel about R/T's when I spray they are no contest actually add SRT-10's to that also :D What do you run on nitrous SinCity ? :confused:

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I have a handful of bolt-ons (not heads/cam/rockers however) and run 1.2 seconds faster than the SS's at the local track, and when I spray it's absolutely no contest.  However, it's really silly to try to compare apples to oranges.

Thats how I feel about R/T's when I spray they are no contest actually add SRT-10's to that also :D What do you run on nitrous SinCity ? :confused:

The best pass that I have a slip for is [email protected], which was run last spring at LVMS (not a sea level track, time not corrected). At the time my mods were a K&N intake, ported stock throttle body, Mopar M1 2bbl manifold, Mopar headers, MBRP exhaust, B&G PCM flash, MT E/T Streets, and a 75hp squirt of N2O at maybe 800psi in the bottle (no heater/purge).

 

Since that pass I have upgraded to a bigger air intake, bigger throttle body, 1.75" 4>1 GS Motorsports headers, dual 2.5" catless Spintech exhaust, 1.7r roller rockers, a beefed up transmission, 2400 stall torque converter, rebuilt driveshaft, and will be spraying with 150hp jets and a bottle heater to keep it up in the 1000psi range. I'll do some shakedown runs before letting it rip at Mopars at the Strip in mid-march, I'm expecting to run somewhere in the mid-12's.

 

For track reference, the stock SS's I've seen race at LVMS ran 15.8-16.0.

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You see stock SS's run 15.8-16.0? Wow. I think my silverado could do that? Anyway, if he had posted in a more mature matter, he would've gotten more mature results :thumbs::chevy:

LVMS is a top-notch facility but times are about .5-.7 slower than sea level, because of the altitude and environment.

 

When I posted my [email protected] I was racing against a Lightning that came up from SoCal... He had a 12# pulley, air intake, chip, and slicks and ran .01 faster but 1.5mph slower than me. The heat/conditions can be brutal.

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Just to jump in on the subject, my SS, stock, ran me a best of 15.207 at 72 degrees. Times have been posted and verified by stock SS's to be faster, closer to 14.8-14.9. I'm currently @ a best of 14.88 with only e-fans, a tranny servo and a K&N cone filter. Just to let the Dodge guys know what one of the more stock guys (me) are runnin on here.

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Just to jump in on the subject, my SS, stock, ran me a best of 15.207 at 72 degrees. Times have been posted and verified by stock SS's to be faster, closer to 14.8-14.9. I'm currently @ a best of 14.88 with only e-fans, a tranny servo and a K&N cone filter. Just to let the Dodge guys know what one of the more stock guys (me) are runnin on here.

I have no doubt that at other tracks the SS (just like any other vehicle) will run faster than 15.8-16.0. Every time I drive down to California Speedway in Fontana CA or Firebird Raceway in Phoenix AZ I drop at least .3 off of my time, and those locations aren't exactly ideal. One of these days I'd like to cruise out to Carlsbad on a cool winter day and see what I could run.

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