brobradh77 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Great guy and really know his stuff. Just make sure to use a laptop if you are going with Justins. if he uses a laptop he will need tuning software to download the tune...and that is $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.justin. Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 (edited) do you know where blackbear is located at? thanks I'm in Alexandria, VA (much to my dismay) but will be back in the bay area before the end of October to do some tuning. I attended UC Davis, so it's not uncommon for me to be back that way. if he uses a laptop he will need tuning software to download the tune...and that is $$$ The software is free though, so that's not a problem. The scan cable just collects data, no flashing with it. Edited July 20, 2008 by .justin. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseymike68 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 I have the Borla Parts too and love it, my brother got his used from craigslist but I wanted a valid warranty so I got it here. Borla Parts Exhaust 14942, or you can try one of the sponsors here on the forum, they are allways having sales/specials. Either way its a great exhaust system, sounds great, and very easy to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivierakid55 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 another vote for justin my former neighbor!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1SSS Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 I have not purchased a tune so far. It is between Wheatley, Blackbear and a local shop that can do live tunes (ESP). Two things will make my decision. The one that wins is the one that can lock in the tune, so if I go to my dealership they cannot reset the tune to factory. I am unable to purchase a tune now due to health issues but that is a big decision maker. I also do like the idea of the free re-tune. I have spoken to wheatley and he is a very nice member. I would be glad to give hime my business, the timeing is just not right now for me to purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmahan Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Wheatley FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) I have not purchased a tune so far. It is between Wheatley, Blackbear and a local shop that can do live tunes (ESP). Two things will make my decision. The one that wins is the one that can lock in the tune, so if I go to my dealership they cannot reset the tune to factory. I am unable to purchase a tune now due to health issues but that is a big decision maker. I also do like the idea of the free re-tune. I have spoken to wheatley and he is a very nice member. I would be glad to give hime my business, the timeing is just not right now for me to purchase. locking it or not it sill can get erased when reflashed at the dealer... Professionsal tuners dont need to lock their tunes since there is nothing to hid....IMHO Black Bear Performance Edited August 23, 2009 by WICKEDOWESIX (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerrider Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 i was going to go blackbear back in 07 put went with a Zippy tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbeast ss Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 ^^^im with stupido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1SSS Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 locking it or not it sill can get erased when reflashed at the dealer... Professionsal tuners dont need to lock their tunes since there is nothing to hid....IMHO Black Bear Performance Thank you wicked, I thought they could be completely locked in with no chance of it being erased unless done so buy the tuner. Thank you clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) Two things will make my decision. The one that wins is the one that can lock in the tune, so if I go to my dealership they cannot reset the tune to factory.......I also do like the idea of the free re-tune.I have spoken to wheatley and he is a very nice member. I would be glad to give hime my business....... Sounds to me like you made your mind up already by this statement.......Wheatley. :thumbs: locking it or not it sill can get erased when reflashed at the dealer... Professionsal tuners dont need to lock their tunes since there is nothing to hid....IMHO Black Bear Performance Thank you wicked, I thought they could be completely locked in with no chance of it being erased unless done so buy the tuner.Thank you clearing that up. Unless a GM dealer tech is an absolute Einstein with a Tech 2(which 99% of them aren't), it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for most dealer techs to crack a locked PCM. There are several reasons some tuners are now locking their PCM's.........the most prevalent being that many people are buying their own tuning software now, and are modifying professional custom tunes with very little if any knowledge of how to tune. Then they blow parts up, and blame the professional tuner for it. Think of it as write protecting an SD card or floppy disc, kind of like copyrighting your work so it cannot be hacked. Saying that a tuner would lock their PCM to "hide something", and that "professionals" don't need to do this is absolute , don't start a war by inadvertently insulting a supporting vendor on this forum, who happens to one of the best tuners in the business. Let me repeat myself and say that A LOCKED PCM CANNOT BE FLASHED AND OVERWRITTEN BY THE DEALER UNLESS IT IS UNLOCKED BY THE PROFESSIONAL TUNER FIRST. Edited August 23, 2009 by Fireman31 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Sounds to me like you made your mind up already by this statement.......Wheatley. Unless a GM dealer tech is an absolute Einstein with a Tech 2(which 99% of them aren't), it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for most dealer techs to crack a locked PCM. There are several reasons some tuners are now locking their PCM's.........the most prevalent being that many people are buying their own tuning software now, and are modifying professional custom tunes with very little if any knowledge of how to tune. Then they blow parts up, and blame the professional tuner for it. Think of it as write protecting an SD card or floppy disc, kind of like copyrighting your work so it cannot be hacked. Saying that a tuner would lock their PCM to "hide something", and that "professionals" don't need to do this is absolute , don't start a war by inadvertently insulting a supporting vendor on this forum, who happens to one of the best tuners in the business. Let me repeat myself and say that A LOCKED PCM CANNOT BE FLASHED AND OVERWRITTEN BY THE DEALER UNLESS IT IS UNLOCKED BY THE PROFESSIONAL TUNER FIRST. Absolute BS huh..... Yeah ok Dan... If thats what makes you sleep at night... I'm not even gonna start on this on this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Absolute BS huh..... Yeah ok Dan... If thats what makes you sleep at night... I'm not even gonna start on this on this topic Oh thats it! I forgot Art, you know everything, right? You know everything, and I know nothing.......don't kid yourself...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RockHead Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Unless a GM dealer tech is an absolute Einstein with a Tech 2(which 99% of them aren't), it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for most dealer techs to crack a locked PCM. There are several reasons some tuners are now locking their PCM's.........the most prevalent being that many people are buying their own tuning software now, and are modifying professional custom tunes with very little if any knowledge of how to tune. Then they blow parts up, and blame the professional tuner for it. Think of it as write protecting an SD card or floppy disc, kind of like copyrighting your work so it cannot be hacked. Saying that a tuner would lock their PCM to "hide something", and that "professionals" don't need to do this is absolute , don't start a war by inadvertently insulting a supporting vendor on this forum, who happens to one of the best tuners in the business. Let me repeat myself and say that A LOCKED PCM CANNOT BE FLASHED AND OVERWRITTEN BY THE DEALER UNLESS IT IS UNLOCKED BY THE PROFESSIONAL TUNER FIRST. If you have your PCM is Locked and the Dealer reflashs your PCM he can KILL the PCM . So you have to get a new one from the dealer . That is what I understand . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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