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I hear that.....while I was posting I was running between the 13 week old and the 3 year old.....at least my wife cooked tonight so I could post a little. Just got both to sleep now.......ahhhhhhhhh, peace. But at least I had the wife's iPad for some posts, much easier then the phone.My bad I see it now I got my 16 month old daughter climbing on me while I'm reading this off my iPhone screen that is unbelievable you are not far behind that 427 how much horsepower and torque difference between the two motor to make those times
I wish I knew that answer, 2bseen has been gone for years now and I don't know if i ever read about a dyno run from him. Kinda to bad to see these old members disappear.
But if my buddy joe runs his ls7 ss, we can learn a ton about a larger cubic inch high torque low rpm motor vs a small cubed low torque high rpm setup. I think he dynod 545 at the tires on the same dyno I use, but I forget his torque. It's apples to oranges because our trucks are very different but, hell, it's something to talk about
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I love my cam. I have yet to be beat off the line at the track or on the road. I only have a 3k for my stall but I'm pulled some 1.86's 60ft which isn't to shabby.
Although are set ups where a little different, just to show what a converter can do, with a 3800 tcs stall(the tcs out of Canada), I pulled 3 60' times in the 1.6s, best was a 1.633. But that converter was violent, it was chases old converter restalled for my truck, but at the time he ran his best 60 foot on it as well. To bad we both eventually blew it up.....
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Sorry for off topic posts OP, but it's nice to have things to talk about.
Definitely post up a sound clip
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Ok thanks for the info to be honest we haven't really talked about size yet just about putting a bigger cam in along with push rods,modified oil pump,c5r timing gear and chain, valve seals, high rev valve springs, and he ports the throttle body and installs a new flap along with a new tune for a little under 2000.00 parts and labor. But I kinda want a set of heads to really open up the stock block but funds may not allow the heads this summer.
Don't need the oil pump, another bandwagon. Just adds more parasitic loss. If it has the name c5r in the title odds are you can't afford it. Ls2 stuff will work fine, although I don't know why or how the c5r chain is different, if it costs more, use the ls2. I would do the heads the same time as the cam and forget the converter until you recover the funds. Do the heads the same time as the cam, just works together, pulling the trans doesn't help do a cam. You can replace the lifter trays with ls2, use a thinner head gasket, depending on chamber size, and replace the stock lifters, which at least in my small opinion should be done. You can use the ls7 lifters, which I think zippy said are standard issue now a days, or the cts-vr lifters which are ment for sustained rpm(what I originally used), or the morel drop in lifters if your serous about having the best(what I now use since i noticed a stress point and cracks in my cts-vr lifters). What heads to use is another essay
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Yeah that's my time.Brad you are the 12.41 correct?? That's damn impressive. I'd love to be there one day.
Shoot for it man! Set your goal and don't let anyone tell you can't make it.
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I think we're on a different wave length here,So both of these motors ran the same time is that what your saying
Stock cube=12.41
427ci c5r motor=12.14
I guess a mod can't even use the quote button right......sent from my phone isn't exactly the quote I was looking for
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yup you can get them over on PT.net. but make sure you send it to circle D to be cleaned. whoever you buy it from couldve blown up their trans and it could be full of crap.
This, always send it in and have it checked unless you know the seller. I also prefer the triple disk converters so you can lock it on the dyno and track and have no fears.
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228 is getting big but not outta the question. Pretty popular on here. You really don't need a 228 to get real fast, just do everything right and match the stall. I went 12.8s on a 224 cam because I....well I slightly over did the stall, but I gave it what it wanted. Hard to beat a 224 cam and a 3600 stall, I lost a couple highway races but don't think anyone ever took from stoplight to stoplight. I turned my fastest 60' to date with the truck intake and that 224 cam.
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12.41 is still ridiculously impressive for a stock cubed na setup
Thank you. Should be a couple other stock cubed trucks running some numbers this year. Couple in high 12's and one maybe faster then that 12.41 pass. If he runs it, a ls7 ss truck could be mid/low 12s to.
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Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2No, 12.41 is the stock cubed na record
2bseen had a na 427ci c5r block to run the 12.14. And it's been years on top of years now and his record still stands. Very impressive
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What is a big cam. My definition of big cam doesn't come close to a 3200 stallYeah my engine/tuner guy referred a 3200 stall so that sounds like your being steered in the right direction.
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no stall yet.. in a week or two.. my tuner and perfomance guy said my truck would move that cam but I do want to get like 3200 or 3400 asap
3200-3400 on that cam will be perfect....and I don't say that often.
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Not liking it is a little different then way you made the post sound. Not liking it makes more sense
What defines a large cam
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No, 12.41 is the stock cubed na recordSo its stock cubes, N/A, with bolt ons/heads/tune/etc, and ran 12.14? Thats impressive! Any spray?
2bseen had a na 427ci c5r block to run the 12.14. And it's been years on top of years now and his record still stands. Very impressive
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What's the rest of the specs of cam? You put a stall n it?good question my engine guy said he would not install a cam until it had a stall converter in it.
Why? You can run any cam on any stall....it just won't 60 worth a damn and low speed tuning can be slightly tougher. Not recommended but doable untill you get the funds together. Also can be nice for testing, run a stock stall on a cam and then a real stall and learn what a stall really does for 60' and rpm drops.
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2Bseen, 427 c5r. Mine is stock cubes, but that number is my goal. However unrealistic it seems. My truck is second na overall depending on what another member really ran.
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Mini to ev1 pigtail. Very easy and available on the racetronix websiteWith those being EV1 but the long style are they plug and play to a stock fuel rail, or will there be modification involved?
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Don't buy a handheld programmer. The only way you'll make the truck "fast" is with some boost. Do some reading on turbos and superchargers to decide which is best for you. You won't be able to do anything else to the motor to be that fast unless you wanna spray nitrous.
What do you define as fast. The top na truck ran a 12.14. Na can be plenty fast.
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Thanks,
Brad
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Awesome man! Can't wait to see some track times and maybe some new dyno runs. Keep us up to date
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Brandon,
Still very much anticipating the results you get. Very awesome build and lots of info for guys to base their motors on
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Dan, I think I'm going to bump this every day until we get some dyno results!!!!! We need something to talk about around here!!!!! Plus it's great education for us all
Joe throw a higher converter in there and you'll never look back. You'd really be amazed how easy my 4500 is to drive around, and more forgiving then guys think. Don't fear a 3400-3600
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Joe get the size off the belt and get a gator back. I've tried the dayco belts twice now and they squeal horrible. Both times I replaced with a gator back and it stopped instantly. Just did it a couple of days ago as a matter of fact when I relocated the idler pulley.I have the same issue with my truck.... driving me crazy
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Seeing how this thread poped up. Not trying to steal the op thread here just a question. Brad I was thinking of doing a set of PP 243 heads for my truck soon. With my 224/230 581 592 114 comp cam what kinda hp would I pick up? Is it worth the money and is the good street manners gonna still be there? Thanks Jason
Jason, sorry for delayed response, but with being a mod with a plasti dip thread going on and a dad with a 3 year old and a 10 week old....stuff gets tight. And because of the new boy I lost my office and home computer with it....so this is the short answer I hate to give. And by the way I hate my wife's iPad......more bucking new technology...lolSo the 243's will make more power than the l92?
That is a loaded question, as I have stated, I prefer the cathedral port heads, but stock 243 vs stock l92 is a very hard call to make. The l92 flows much better but has lower compression, the 243 offers a better design chamber and a intake exhaust ratio that works with a lot of cams plus the compression to cover up or mask mistakes in cam selection. It seems the l92 heads offer small window of cams that really work, compared to the cathedral port where you can damn near throw a dart at a cam list and it will work great. But if you port the set of 243 heads, tea said my 2.5 stage 317 heads where about 227cc, I would take the 243 heads any day. And like i said above, a lot of this is my opinion based on results I have seen and my own. You can argue it either way until your blue in the face. Before I made any choices(and if I had my home computer I would do this for you), I would figure out the static compression and dynamic compression of each head with the cam you have. I would target static of around 11.4-.5 and a dynamic of around 8.8-.9. If your serious about switching heads and making power, I would get a set of stage 3 243/799 heads ported by tea and decked to maintain the 64-65cc chamber, use a .041 head gasket and a few other tweaks while i was in there, like ls2 lifter trays, ls7 lifters or morel if you have money burning a hole in you pocket and preload the lifters about .020. Yella terra rockers are also high on my list.
If you don't want to crack into heads, a 3400-3600 stall would be a good place to get a boost off you current cam.
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Think TEA for the heads, much like flt, hard to get a hold of, but worth the wait.......
I swear if 2bfast posts something about me and chuck......I'm driving down there......