sdimedude Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 New here and I am interested in getting a silverado ss. I am not sure what year to get. I heard a couple things about them such as the first ones came with AWD and then they swapped them over to 2wd. What is the deal with that? Also I think they first came with the escalade motor then the swapped to another motor? Oh and here are my current trucks. This is my s10. It has been bagged for 3 years. It is down right now. I trashed the old frame and I am currently rebbagging it on 20s. This is my tacoma. I am planning on trading it in when I find my ss. This truck is too small and uncomfortable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Silv Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Welcome to the site. 03-04 are AWD, and I believe 05+ are 2WD. And no the SS has always had the same motor, 6.0 LQ9 345 Horse. I wish they would put the new Escalade motor in the SS, but Chevy sucks at life. I have an AWD and love it, I would never switch to 2WD, but everyone has there preferences. Anywase, Nice S-10 and if you have anymore questions we would be more than happy to answer them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 ... I heard a couple things about them such as the first ones came with AWD and then they swapped them over to 2wd. What is the deal with that?Welcome to the forum - nice S10 AFA your question, several reasons combined to make the change from AWD with 4.10 gearsets to 2WD with 3.73 rear gears; 1) the final retail sticker price of the AWD truck was so expensive they weren't selling at the time, many SS's sat on lots for months; 2) performance truck enthusiasts held that the AWD made the truck too heavy plus increased drivetrain losses and that discouraged them from buying; 3) the AWD SS trucks started to exhibit serious drivetrain problems in the front axles in the form of groaning and loud operation (failed bearings) and there were many dealer/warranty service issues about this. GM opted to phase-out the AWD trucks in early 2005 to both eliminate warranty work they were suffering as well as bring a performance truck to the market for a few grand less. I have a AWD SS and love it; my past truck was a BBC with posi, I could never get any traction in that truck and completely enjoy my 2003 SS Although buying parts for it is about as expensive as BBC parts Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdimedude Posted January 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 thank you guys. Okay another question. Did any 2wd 1500 silverados come with the 6.0 also? Do all 6.0s come with automatic trannys? What gas mileage are you guys getting? ... I heard a couple things about them such as the first ones came with AWD and then they swapped them over to 2wd. What is the deal with that?Welcome to the forum - nice S10 AFA your question, several reasons combined to make the change from AWD with 4.10 gearsets to 2WD with 3.73 rear gears; 1) the final retail sticker price of the AWD truck was so expensive they weren't selling at the time, many SS's sat on lots for months; 2) performance truck enthusiasts held that the AWD made the truck too heavy plus increased drivetrain losses and that discouraged them from buying; 3) the AWD SS trucks started to exhibit serious drivetrain problems in the front axles in the form of groaning and loud operation (failed bearings) and there were many dealer/warranty service issues about this. GM opted to phase-out the AWD trucks in early 2005 to both eliminate warranty work they were suffering as well as bring a performance truck to the market for a few grand less. I have a AWD SS and love it; my past truck was a BBC with posi, I could never get any traction in that truck and completely enjoy my 2003 SS Although buying parts for it is about as expensive as BBC parts Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747Racing Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hey, one quick point. Just to clear up some misconception, I"m 99% sure that in Canada the 2005 SS's were still AWD but only an option in Canada. I'm not sure why they did this, but just thought I'd let you know. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wody Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hey, one quick point.Just to clear up some misconception, I"m 99% sure that in Canada the 2005 SS's were still AWD but only an option in Canada. I'm not sure why they did this, but just thought I'd let you know. Cheers! mine and my buddies 05's are awd. i hurried up and bought mine in 05 cuz i didn't want a 2wd with front disc and rear drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 thank you guys. Okay another question. Did any 2wd 1500 silverados come with the 6.0 also? Do all 6.0s come with automatic trannys? What gas mileage are you guys getting? There are 2 6.0L Vortec motors, the LQ4 and the LQ9; these engines are identical except for piston dish size, the LQ4 has a little lower compression ratio to deal better with low-octane pump unleaded. The LQ4 motor appears in many trucks, especially the 2500's so you might find that 6.0L motor in half-ton Silverados but I haven't kept up so that is a guess; but here is a list of the LQ9-equipped trucks, this is by no means definitive but as best as I could compile/remember: Chevy Silverado SS LQ9 + AWD (2003-MY2005) GMC Sierra Denali LQ9 + AWD (2005-present) Chevy Silverado SS LQ9 + 2WD (2005-2007) Chevy Silverado SS Intimidator LQ9 + 2WD (2005-2007; aka "SSI") GMC Sierra Texas Truck Edition LQ9 + 2WD (2004-MY2005) - 4x4 also Chevy Silverado Vortec High Output LQ9 + 2WD (2004-2005; RPO B4V aka "VHO") GMC Sierra Vortec HO Edition LQ9 + 2WD (MY2005-present) Chevy Silverado Vortec Max ext. cab LQ9 + 2WD (2006-2007) - 4x4 also Chevy Silverado Vortec Max crew cab LQ9 + 2WD (2006-2007) - 4x4 also All 6.0L-equipped trucks are autos, LQ4 & LQ9. Mileage varies with drivetrain; my AWD SS stock got high-14's city, mid-16's freeway but that was with a CAI, catback, & tune, I've since added shorter tires so I get mid-15's on the freeway now but even that is better than my buddy's 2006 Sierra CC 5.3, he is bone stock and gets worse mileage than my modified SS. The 2WD LQ9-equipped trucks are getting what I would consider damn good mileage, reports range from 17 to 19 or better. You'll have to use the search function to hunt-up the fuel mileage threads, this gets discussed 2-3 times a year... Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdimedude Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Thank you man, but you're info about there only being a automatic offered for the 6.0 is false. There was a 5 speed offered, but I think they were very rare. Well anyhow this is the truck that I picked up yesterday! click here! thank you guys. Okay another question. Did any 2wd 1500 silverados come with the 6.0 also? Do all 6.0s come with automatic trannys? What gas mileage are you guys getting? There are 2 6.0L Vortec motors, the LQ4 and the LQ9; these engines are identical except for piston dish size, the LQ4 has a little lower compression ratio to deal better with low-octane pump unleaded. The LQ4 motor appears in many trucks, especially the 2500's so you might find that 6.0L motor in half-ton Silverados but I haven't kept up so that is a guess; but here is a list of the LQ9-equipped trucks, this is by no means definitive but as best as I could compile/remember: Chevy Silverado SS LQ9 + AWD (2003-MY2005) GMC Sierra Denali LQ9 + AWD (2005-present) Chevy Silverado SS LQ9 + 2WD (2005-2007) Chevy Silverado SS Intimidator LQ9 + 2WD (2005-2007; aka "SSI") GMC Sierra Texas Truck Edition LQ9 + 2WD (2004-MY2005) - 4x4 also Chevy Silverado Vortec High Output LQ9 + 2WD (2004-2005; RPO B4V aka "VHO") GMC Sierra Vortec HO Edition LQ9 + 2WD (MY2005-present) Chevy Silverado Vortec Max ext. cab LQ9 + 2WD (2006-2007) - 4x4 also Chevy Silverado Vortec Max crew cab LQ9 + 2WD (2006-2007) - 4x4 also All 6.0L-equipped trucks are autos, LQ4 & LQ9. Mileage varies with drivetrain; my AWD SS stock got high-14's city, mid-16's freeway but that was with a CAI, catback, & tune, I've since added shorter tires so I get mid-15's on the freeway now but even that is better than my buddy's 2006 Sierra CC 5.3, he is bone stock and gets worse mileage than my modified SS. The 2WD LQ9-equipped trucks are getting what I would consider damn good mileage, reports range from 17 to 19 or better. You'll have to use the search function to hunt-up the fuel mileage threads, this gets discussed 2-3 times a year... Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Thank you man, but you're info about there only being a automatic offered for the 6.0 is false. There was a 5 speed offered, but I think they were very rare.Could you please elaborate? I've never heard of a standard behind a 6.0L; the 5-speed was/is available with the smaller V8's but to our knowledge not with a LQ4/LQ9. Not trying to pick an argument here, just wanting to know what you have seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdimedude Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Thank you man, but you're info about there only being a automatic offered for the 6.0 is false. There was a 5 speed offered, but I think they were very rare.Could you please elaborate? I've never heard of a standard behind a 6.0L; the 5-speed was/is available with the smaller V8's but to our knowledge not with a LQ4/LQ9. Not trying to pick an argument here, just wanting to know what you have seen... Well I was browsing through my 06 sierra dealer brochure and it was showing info about a 5 speed manual with the 6.0 and a 6 speed manual with the 8.1. I don't have the brochure with me right now, but I think it was only offered with the 1500hd/2500hd. My dad has also said that it was offered. When I get the brochure back I will look back at it to make sure I didn't read it wrong. I'm not trying to start a argument either, I kind of jumped the gun without having the info directly in front of me. Sorry if I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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