brobradh77 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 WITH YOUR SETUP I WOULD AT LEAST GO A 3000 RPM STALL. VIG ARE PROBABLY THE BEST, I RUN A YANK 3200 HD FOR THE 4L80E AND IT WORKS GREAT. I STILL PULL A LIGHT TRAILER FROM TIME TO TIME. NOTHING OVER 4000LBS. JAMEST Dude quit yelling...lol turn the caps lock off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 The higher the stall you run, the more chances you have of running into a problem. With a Procharger you can run 60's in the 1.7's with a 2600 if the programming is right. A TBTC will stall to around 3100 behind a Procharged SS as would a 2600 Yank. There is a big difference between a custom ordered converter such as the Vigilante and an off the shelf/pre-stalled converter. A 3000 Vigilante will stall to around 2600 to 3000 (they tend to miss by about 400rpm on the low side almost every time) where as a Yank 2600 will stall to around 3000 or so in a supercharged application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBlueSS Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Dude quit yelling...lol turn the caps lock off ZIPPY LIKE IT WHEN YOU USE THE CAPS LOCK. Unless you're running a monster cam, or lots of boost, you will rarely need more than a 3000 stall, imho. I know for me a TB converter will do just fine when I get to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 The higher the stall you run, the more chances you have of running into a problem. With a Procharger you can run 60's in the 1.7's with a 2600 if the programming is right. A TBTC will stall to around 3100 behind a Procharged SS as would a 2600 Yank. There is a big difference between a custom ordered converter such as the Vigilante and an off the shelf/pre-stalled converter. A 3000 Vigilante will stall to around 2600 to 3000 (they tend to miss by about 400rpm on the low side almost every time) where as a Yank 2600 will stall to around 3000 or so in a supercharged application. Well stated. I think this guy know his stuff! Seriously, Zippy nailed it IMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 any one ever bought a TCS converter? they look sick I have a TCS-2800, so does BSER and Chase as well as a few other of us forum old-timers. You are right, holding it in your hand it's a bad azz piece of steel. Works well, I've certainly got no complaints, my converter has outlived 2 trannies now! The stall rating is very accurate, and the lockup clutch has a very positive feel, it engages hard enough to make you think there's a 5th gear. The TCS definitely needs an aftermarket tranny cooler. Performance-wise, my truck is near-stock w/ mail-order PCM4Less tune and launching at 650-rpm in Drive gives a 2.0-sec 60-foot time, I'm sure if I stalled it up to 2-grand first I could probably get more than another tenth out of it. There has been one TCS-2800 explosion here, I cannot remember off-hand whose it was... Mr. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolBlueSS Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Dude!! That is a serious looking converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNE Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I have a TBTC with less than 5,000 miles on it. I overcammed it though. I need more stall with my cam. My 60 ft dropped but my MPH increased since the cam swap. I ordered a Yank Pro Truck 3200 ($945 shipped) it is due to be shipped Monday (they are running behind, I ordered it 2 weeks ago). Dave at Yank said I could tow 9,000 lbs with it with no problems. It is coming with a 36,000 lb Tru Cool tranny cooler (Free for the month of April) Anyway, back to the TBTC, it does fine, it did better before the cam. I tow about 2,000 lbs with it weekly with just the factory cooler and it doesn't get too hot but I would suggest a larger cooler be added. I will be selling the TBTC as soon as it comes out. Probably around $250 shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chpspecial Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Instead of making a new post I figure I would post this here... With the help from my brother, I finished installing my vigilante TC and I must say that it is a totally different feeling from the TB TC. It now feels like my truck has a fifth gear due to the TC lock up engaging, Just as a few members had commented. Also, 2nd gear doesn't hit as hard as it did with the TB TC. I only drove the truck for about 20 miles but so far I am very pleased with the results. The truck also feels smoother, but that could just be me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I have a TBTC with less than 5,000 miles on it. I overcammed it though. I need more stall with my cam. My 60 ft dropped but my MPH increased since the cam swap. I ordered a Yank Pro Truck 3200 ($945 shipped) it is due to be shipped Monday (they are running behind, I ordered it 2 weeks ago). Dave at Yank said I could tow 9,000 lbs with it with no problems. It is coming with a 36,000 lb Tru Cool tranny cooler (Free for the month of April) Anyway, back to the TBTC, it does fine, it did better before the cam. I tow about 2,000 lbs with it weekly with just the factory cooler and it doesn't get too hot but I would suggest a larger cooler be added. I will be selling the TBTC as soon as it comes out. Probably around $250 shipped. What is your 60' with your converter and cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNE Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Before the cam and on stock tune, it was having 1.98-2.00's. Now with the cam and tune, it's more like 2.13-2.15's. I just got my Yank today, still waiting on the cooler before I install it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 i have a tcs also , it is a nice converter and has done well so far. if i ever have any problem with it i will go with a pi 3000-3200 . i have cut some 1.60 60fts with no boost on the launch. and it will definatly spin all four without even stalling it up . with th enew motor im hoping to cut some 1.5 60fts with the drag radials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krambo Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 im hoping to cut some 1.5 60fts with the drag radials. That is my new goal for the fall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sum 1 Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 PI Vigilante multi disc 2800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjoe Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I wonder if I could use a tighter stall. My TBTC seems loose, and I think it brake stalls under 2k and I will check the flash stall....I have a similar cam 224/.563 @112 and wonder if it will make a difference??? I need to get some times to see if I lost any down low... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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