RacerJJ Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Are they worth hassle and the price? I have no smog issues and I am currently running shorty's with no cats. Will I see noticable gains over my current set-up if I were to switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsniper3006 Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 ..... good question everyone says the long tubes produce better, but how much HP are we talking about. I've heard guys say that not running cats is only worth 3% increase so it's not worth it to take them out, but what is the difference between the shorts-mids-and long tubes...3%???10%???? any one done any ET/dyno tests before and after? Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2003SS Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I run pace setters and there was a HUGE difference the day I put them on. I also run cats, but wish i didnt even though there is no gain, I'm more concerned with blowing up my motor by clogging one. I just sold a set of OBX headers to another member and hopefully he will be getting them on soon and be able tell us how they are. CNE ran a set of them also. The pace setters are not much more money than the shorties out there and the OBX's are only $530 shipped. If you were going to get the dynatechs? then I would say yeah, not worth the gain. $1,500 for 10-20hp...nope. You can buy a cam and pay to have it installed for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobradh77 Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 $$$$ has been my main hang up on LT's. Like was said $1500 for 10-20 hp just doesnt seem worth it and I am afraid you also get what you pay for so i havent considered a cheaper brand like pacesetter but most seem to be happy so dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSS04 Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 pacesetters all the way. the first thing i did to my truck was full exhaust and it was well worth it. after i installed my exhaust and LT's, there was a huge noticable difference in HP, especially in the mid range HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04CHASE Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 well i cant tel you numbers on a dyno but i can tell you this i went from mid legnth headers to long tubes with full dual 3 inch all the way back and with the mids i went 12.7 and after the switch i went 11.9 both were on 22's and the only other thing i changed was blowers. same amount of boost but thats a big change for those little mods and tuning. imo for the price of pacesetter they are a great mod. however you can get some of the obx stainless headers for like 500 bucks, they are exact copies of the dynatech's. since you running n/a and have a stock 6.0 they wont show you as big of gains. and for the stock 6.0 i would probably not go with dual 3" more like dual 2.5 or 2.75 and when you lose to much back pressure you lose some bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.0vortech Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I run pace setters and there was a HUGE difference the day I put them on. I also run cats, but wish i didnt even though there is no gain, I'm more concerned with blowing up my motor by clogging one. I just sold a set of OBX headers to another member and hopefully he will be getting them on soon and be able tell us how they are. CNE ran a set of them also. The pace setters are not much more money than the shorties out there and the OBX's are only $530 shipped. If you were going to get the dynatechs? then I would say yeah, not worth the gain. $1,500 for 10-20hp...nope. You can buy a cam and pay to have it installed for that. LOL Man It is worth the gain on the OBX headers for shure man these things fit my 04 AWD like frigen a glove man I culden't belive it! As far as the hastle I dont know it took me all day today to install these & seized stock collector bolts ect was a pain . I just got my saw a cut off the old stuff used copper SCE header gaskets stock header bolts with thredlocker and bolted them in coming up through the bottom! Re adjusted my Borla and bolted up the rest of the pipes to it no clerance issued WHAT SO EVER no tuching the frame or driveshaft! The real pain is the back rear driver side header bolt & spark plug & damn spark plug wire I went out for the first drive and this thing is a beast now man I love it. Huge SOTP gain now I need to get it tuned smells really rich. Hope this helps other people out on the fitament & quality of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.0vortech Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Oh and be prepared to get some Spark plug wire protector sleves for the OBX's at least four two for the rear driver side for shure LOL & two for the front two pasenger or you will have some melted wires! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2003SS Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Probably smells rich because you now have no cats altering the exhaust gasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 i would get the long tubes............my truck feels like a beast with my current mods plus if you get a cam the LT's will really wake up your motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerJJ Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks for the input everyone. I'm still deciding if I want to deal with install because it doesn't sound very fun. I had my shorty's installed and they told me that it was a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12'SROCK Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks for the input everyone. I'm still deciding if I want to deal with install because it doesn't sound very fun. I had my shorty's installed and they told me that it was a pain. the headers are not hard to install at all, me and reynaldo did mine in 30 min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSThunder Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks for the input everyone. I'm still deciding if I want to deal with install because it doesn't sound very fun. I had my shorty's installed and they told me that it was a pain. Install of the dynatech sucked for me but I didn't have air tools. Taking the old headers out was no doubt the hardess part. I'd recommend putting the front up on jack stands and removing the front wheels. That made it so much easier bolting the LT's in. The LT header install was one of my first major installs. I know I could do it quicker now but back then I took my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivierakid55 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks for the input everyone. I'm still deciding if I want to deal with install because it doesn't sound very fun. I had my shorty's installed and they told me that it was a pain. mine were cake to install...now hard was on my old dodge with the 4.7 trying to install a set of jba shorties....actually have to jack the engine up to get them in....bout a 4 hour job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2003SS Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I can change both of my manifold gaskets on my pace setters in less than an hour. I think 04blackssawd only took a couple horus as well. The hardest part is breaking loose the rusted bolts on the underneath exhaust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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