Bed Liner

[desrtrat]

i have the Rhino on mine. it didn't hold the color like i would of liked. but it is under my Gaylord so it not a issue any more. if i had to do again i would go line x..

 

[Truckster]

With LINE-X:

 

1. It's a preferred blend of polyurethane and polyurea and does not contain any solvents (Superliner, Speedliner, Scorpian, and Herculiner are solvent based).

2. If you get the optional LINE-X Xtra product, it will resist fading and loss of gloss, will be more scratch and stain resistant, and will contain a Dupont Kevlar micropulp for extreme durability. Xtra is available in black or for color matching. BTW, Xtra is made by Dupont only for LINE-X and no other bedliner has a product like it.

3. The application process uses the preferred heat/high pressure system.

4. You will receive a written limited lifetime warranty that is valid nationwide.

 

For those who already have a spray-on bedliner: If it's faded and not looking so good, LINE-X will soon have a new product called ReNew that is a PATENTED method of renewing nasty looking bedliners, ANY brand. The ReNew process includes the use of LINE-X Xtra.

Edited January 22, 2008 by Truckster (see edit history)

[morgue41]

With LINE-X:

 

1. It's a preferred blend of polyurethane and polyurea and does not contain any solvents (Superliner, Speedliner, Scorpian, and Herculiner are solvent based).

2. If you get the optional LINE-X Xtra product, it will resist fading and loss of gloss, will be more scratch and stain resistant, and will contain a Dupont Kevlar micropulp for extreme durability. Xtra is available in black or for color matching. BTW, Xtra is made by Dupont only for LINE-X and no other bedliner has a product like it.

3. The application process uses the preferred heat/high pressure system.

4. You will receive a written limited lifetime warranty that is valid nationwide.

 

For those who already have a spray-on bedliner: If it's faded and not looking so good, LINE-X will soon have a new product called ReNew that is a PATENTED method of renewing nasty looking bedliners, ANY brand. The ReNew process includes the use of LINE-X Xtra.

 

I dont talk generally talk about other products on this website as I enjoy it personally...But

 

1. who prefers this blend

2. You mean if you pay more it might not fade so soon???

3. again who prefers it

4.Keyword is LIMITED-- guaranteed against what? tears, scrapes, nope just guaranteed that it was put in properly(the warranty is online for anybody to read). nationwide--plenty of companies have a nation wide "guarantee". its only as good as the man standing behind it.

 

One last question if this new ReNew product is to make old and nasty bedliners look like new then why would you need it for Line-X--normal(the one that everybody gets)or Line-X Xtra?

 

Im sorry if you feel like im attacking your product but i thought since you lumped these other bedliners together when they are clearly not the same, and were trying to SELL your product that i would just ask the questions that i think everybody would like to know.

 

take the word of your fellow SSS.com members as they are here to help you and each other.

Edited January 22, 2008 by morgue41 (see edit history)

[Truckster]

I dont talk generally talk about other products on this website as I enjoy it personally...But

 

1. who prefers this blend

2. You mean if you pay more it might not fade so soon???

3. again who prefers it

4.Keyword is LIMITED-- guaranteed against what? tears, scrapes, nope just guaranteed that it was put in properly(the warranty is online for anybody to read). nationwide--plenty of companies have a nation wide "guarantee". its only as good as the man standing behind it.

 

One last question if this new ReNew product is to make old and nasty bedliners look like new then why would you need it for Line-X--normal(the one that everybody gets)or Line-X Xtra?

 

Im sorry if you feel like im attacking your product but i thought since you lumped these other bedliners together when they are clearly not the same, and were trying to SELL your product that i would just ask the questions that i think everybody would like to know.

 

take the word of your fellow SSS.com members as they are here to help you and each other.

 

Good questions and I don't mind answering them.

 

1. Spray-on bedliners have been evolving since the early 1980's. Generally, these are the types on the market: 100% polyurethane, 100% polyurea, blend of polyurethane and polyurea, and solvent based polyureas. In the last year or so, there has been a move by many companies to the blends. For example, Rhino and Toff, who used to only be 100% polyurethane, now use blends. The reason is because both polyurethane and polyurea give the liner desirable properties and thus tend to be the best product for spray-on bedliners. (I can go in to that deeper if you wish.) So, blends are currently the industry's preference.

2. The number one complaint of spray-on bedliners is fading. Some companies have offered UV resistant topcoats but none have been durable enough to withstand the use of a truck's bed. LINE-X approached Dupont and they both spent over two years formulating the Xtra product. Xtra actually achieves a mechanical bond (unlike the other products on the market) and IS durable enough for a truck bed. Xtra is a one-time application, is maintenance free, and no other brand has a product like it. So, why do regular bedliners fade anyway. Well, that's because they are made of aromatic (not UV resistant) chemicals instead of aliphatic chemicals (is UV resistant). Aliphatic chemicals are very expensive and more difficult to work with. Aliphatic bedliners would be too expensive. Keep in mind that these bediner products are used for a lot of other things other than bedliners. UV resistance is not always necessary.

3. The answer is basically the same as number 1. As companies are switching to blends, they are also switching to a heat/high pressure application system.

4. The LINE-X warranty can be viewed at www.goline-x.com. The warranty does not cover abuse, such as if you wreck your truck including the bed, LINE-X will not install a new free bedliner. I think you see the point. LINE-X was the first and still is the ONLY franchised bedliner company to offer this sort of warranty.

 

ReNew: I don't know a lot about the product now, I will know a lot more after February 15. However, I do know that ReNew will not be necessary for LINE-X Xtra bedliners.

 

If you have any other questions, fire away!

 

 

LINE-X Xtra color match:

 

No more rock chips!

 

Edited January 22, 2008 by Truckster (see edit history)

[brobradh77]

^^^ some of his statements I do not agree with. I see Chris Morque41 is looking at this as well and maybe he will chime in here. I have a SUPER LINER and from I have seen is the only liner garunteed never to fade or they will replace it as well. I guess line-x dealers and rhino liner and every other bed liner are going to say they are the best

[morgue41]

Im just sayin there are other things out there.

We all have examples of nice work.

[Truckster]

Nice pics!

 

Superliner, Speedliner, Scorpian are all solvent based polyureas. They are similiar to marine paint. You mix resin with activator and then brush it on, roll it on, or use a hopper gun. All three products require a primer to be applied first so that the bedliner product will stick to the bed. Superliner was started by ex-Speedliner employees. All three take an hour or two to dry and about 72 hours to cure. Since they are more like a paint, they will hold their color, but they do lose their gloss. Even Speedliner's website states that after 2,000 hours (that's less than 3 months), the liner can lose up to 20% of it's gloss. I'm not bad mouthing any of these products, that's just the way it is.

 

LINE-X (and Rhino) do not contain solvents and do not require a primer. LINE-X dries in 4 seconds and cures within 24 hours.

 

There is one HUGE problem with Superliner, Speedliner, and Scorpian. Since they contain solvents, dealers MUST be in an OSHA approved spraybooth. These spraybooths are very expensive, cost prohibitive for most dealers, and most dealers do not have one. OSHA is currently VERY active in Texas and they are visiting a lot of bedliner dealers. Last summer, they shut down the Speedliner dealer in Arlington, Texas. BTW, the solvent in Speedliner is ethyl acetate. EA is EXTREMELY dangerous, its vapors are literally explosive. Not only do bedliner dealers have to comply with OSHA, but there are also State and local laws regarding solvents. For example, in Texas, you cannot spray more than two gallons of solvent per week without being in an approved OSHA spraybooth. One truck gets about 4.5 gallons of bedliner product. I think it's just a matter of time before these types of bedliner products will be forced out of the market.

 

 

 

Edited January 23, 2008 by Truckster (see edit history)

[BILLS04SS]

Well if u put lumber, tools Ect.in your bed go whit a spray on bed liner. But if your bed doesn't see much abuse go whit a bed rug IMO.

I agree 100%. It all depends on what you put in your bed. If you use it to put lumber, bricks, etc then go with a Spray in liner. If you don't use the bed that way then get a bed rug with a Gaylord Speedstur as I did. You won't regret that combo if you don't use your bed for lumber.. etc..

[steelin3rd]

my truck had a bedrug when i purchased it. i had been thinking swapping out for a spray in.

 

after reading the good things in this post about the bedrug, i am going to put it back in and run with it.

 

i didn't realize that there was no issue with water trapment/ corrosion.

[00z71sierra]

Avoid the Rhino lining, it won't last. I have a bedrug and absolutely love it, although it's looking a bit ragged now (been in the sun every day for 3+ years now) and I will be getting another. Of the spray-in liners I would recommend Super Liner or Line-X, very very good products and they can be applied in almost any color so if you wanted a color-matched liner they can do that now.

 

Mr. P.

 

I tend to disagree on this comment. I had a Rhinoliner on my old truck that I owned for 10 years and the liner is still in great shape. My new truck (2000) also has a Rhinoliner in it and again, no problems and we're going on 8 years here. I can't comment about the fading issue since I only have a black liner but as far as it not lasting I don't think you can go wrong with a Rhinoliner and will recommend them anytime. As with any spray on liner, prep work is key and if it's not prepped right you could have problems.

[Stitches040]

I've had Line-X since Aug of 03 and still looks great. If I were to buy a new pickup the first stop after leaving the dealership would be the Line-X shop! :thumbs:

 

 

Have had it since I bought my truck brand new, back in Aug. 04. Love it ..... Would go get another one on the next truck!!!!

[BSER]

Choosing a spray in liner is easy; go to any Wal-mart parking lot and look in the back of trucks...there will probably be examples of each. I think you will find that a Line-X liner just looks better and shows less in the way of wear and tear. Any company can say thay have the best liner, but performance and looks and customer service are what counts counts. Let's say you drop a frig or something on your liner and take a small chunk out of it (hey, things happen) Line-X will fix it generally at no charge...try to get that kind of service elsewhere.

[huero626]

I would go with a Line-X bedliner