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Sure did, I was going to start a new thread here an offer autographed copies for ten bucks but I think I will go back to Hotrod forum.com (no relation to magazine) and to Corvette Forum.com those guys are embarassing me with the emails, pms and even a few phone call. I read fourteen car mags a month and by far HotRod is the best done. My Brother says I started reading it when I was ten and My Wife thinks I have subscribed to it every since we were first married.I know I just happened to be at the right place at the right time but it's kind of a kick, I did not know I was going to be mentioned but I was just flipping through checking out their new format and saw it. You know when I realized it was an honor to be first on the line, When Al walked over from the starting line and got his camera out of his car and took a couple of pictures of my truck. But when he opened the passenger door and said quote "Aren't you the big Dog, it windy out there and don't you go and fxxxx up my show" I knew I had arrived" Garrell

I have actualy seen Silverado trucks fron the years of the SSS that had chin spoilers, I had googled for months trying to find a GM spoiler that would fit behind the SS bumper, I don't want to go internal with anything ie. cam change etc. but I could feel the rocker arm/valve spring change along with the ported throttle body change in my seat of the pants dyno before I saw the numbers. Everything I have done since my first 123.5 mph pass at Maxton last Summer has worked so far. My record seting pass at Maxton was at 126.999 and we had a bad wind that weekend and my best run at Wilmington in April and again the wind was against us that weekend also was at 133.869. I have said before I really think I would have ran 135 to 137 mph if the wind wasn't a factor. When I go back I want to have a speed improvement goal as I have each time but I have got to be carefull because I would be getting close to having a talk with Keith Turk and Keith has been a lot of help to me so I want to stay on his good side. Garrell

I did some research during the night and I did find the web site I mentioned above where HotRod did a buildup on an LQ9 engine and along with the rollertip rocker change they reccomend the heavy wall 3/8" pushrods because these engines were known for crushing pushrods at high rpms, the website is www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_o710_6l_ls_series I also went to numerous sources about headers and the general concensious is that short tube headers on an LQ9 frees up 10 to 15 hp, but you lose it at the collectors with a stock or even high performance exhaust system but if you can run them open it will free up, not make, maybe 15 hp. That was my question about using them in conjunction with the pair of 2 3/4" cutouts.Does anyone think this might be true? The HotRod article says around 11 hp with the FAST intake which is less than the mfgrs. estimate of 25 to 30 hp. The cost for 20" lightweight wheels and narrow speed rated tires would be cost prohibitive and would not be something I would want to run around home. A deep chin spoiler would help stop as much air from getting under the truck so if anyone has a source of one designed to fit up behind the bumper and hang down low enough I would appreciate info, thanks. Garrell

No cam changes and not suppose to run headers but I found out that cars in production classes were running short tube headers and I talked with some of the owners and some of them have big budgets and go to wind tunnels during the off season and a few have crew chiefs that do their on tuning and they though the short tubes in conjunction with the cutouts would have basically the effect of running upen headers and they though 25 to 30 hp so I was being conservative when I was looking for 20 hp. The headers along with long tube headers for my Corvette shipped today! You don't think that there will be any hp benefit with the combination I am planning? I am old school where we would take a 300 or maybe a 350 hp 350 ci. or even a 327 ci. install a tunnel ram or just an aluminum highrise, call one of the cam companies and tell them what we were planning ie. still trying to run on the street, 1/8th or 1/4 mile and they would suggest a cam profile, install hedman headers and off we would go with our m22 rock crusher and we managed to run pretty fast for the day,ie. low 13's or maybe into the 12's. I drove a 69 Plymouth Sattelite for a Dodge/Plymouth dealer in the early 70's and I think we ran 11.30s in the early 70's. Some of the changes between Maxton last Oct. and Ohio in April definitely worked because I could immediately tell in my seat of the pants dyno and my truck picked up because of a 7 mph improvement in a stronger wind. That was with the rocker/spring change, porting the throttle body, and the tuneup. One change appears to give you a fair amont of hp versus the cost is the FAST intake which claims 30+ hp for around $1150.00 installed, what is your opinion on this change. This will probably be my last trip as a matter of fact I never planned on going back but after this Months issue of HotRod cane out and documented my making the first pass at the inagural Ohio Mile and mentioning ny coming back from an illness and getting out of what was suppossed to be a lifetime in a wheelchair people from other forums and clubs are emailing and sending me private messages as well as local parts shops and hotrod clubs are encourageing me to go back one more time and try to break and reset two of my records and set two more that are open so deep that no one will break them for a long time. I doubt they would catch lowering the truck but it is not allowed. I can run a chin spoiler but I looked for one two months and could not find one that would work, the deeper the better. The modifications I described above chassis dynoed at 62 hp and added 7 mph, I just want to pkckup that 300 to 400 rpms that I left on the table. Oh, one more thing the reason I was the first vehicle in line and was mentioned in HotRod Mag. wasn't because of my recovering from a heart attack followed by three strokes. Iam a chronic insomniac and never go to bed so I got my crew up and we picked up drive through breakfast and were sitting at the gate into the pitt and to the left one mile the staging lanes at 4:45 am and the gate didn't open until 6:00 am and the very efficient starting line crew had no idea who was in the big black truck with the dark tinted windows. They had to shut off registrations at 175 abd with threatening weather I was going to get one good run in. Garrell Patterson

The 3/8" pushrods were recommended by the performance shop I use and they do nothing but LS engines, he said because of the sustained high rpms that it would be a good idea. The cost on the push rods was not that much so I don't think he was trying to just sell something. I was in his shop three weeks ago and counted 16 late model 2010 to 2012 SS Camaros and c6 Corvettes in addition to cars parked all around the outside of his building and almost all them were getting one turbo-charger and some twin chargers. HotRod magazine did the same change several years ago on a buildup series they did on an LQ9 engine, I had it under one of my favorites but I have deleted it so I don't know what year or month. I was about to start a new thread but I will go ahead and throw it out here to start. I need to add about another 30 to 40 horsepower like everyone as economical as I can. I ordered ceramic coated short tube headers yesterday and I already have Doug's Headers electric cutouts so with the headers installed and the cutouts open I figure I am picking up maybe 20 horsepower? What reccomenditions does anyone have for another 20 horsepower? Garrel

An article came out in this months HotRod Magazine about the inaugural Ohio Mile and it starts off calling me by name and spelled corectly, making the first pass down the Mile and gives my speed 132.267 the slowest I ran all day and that I set the first track record and the article ends on the oposite page mentioning I had been in a wheelchair up until fifteen months before the event and Doctors said I would never get any better and goes on and states that landspeed racing can be done by anyone, pretty neat my Brother says I started reading HotRod when I was around ten years old and I have subscribed to it about my entire adult life. Anyway I was going to retire from landspeed racing and have ordered parts to go to work on my Corvette and was going to dragrace at a pretty little track about 60 miles from home where I am aquainted with the family that built and owns now fifty years later. Anyway I have had emails and private messages from friends I met racing and on a LS racing forum all wanting me to go one more time and do a farewell run. Can you believe my Wife says why don't you and Luke, my fifteen year old Grandson, and David, my Brother in Law go back next April and set those other two records so high no one will ever break them so today I find myself thinking about what performance modifications I can/want to do and planning on going to Ohio next April. I will still do some dragracing this fall but there are two more LS records I can set which would give me and my SSS a total of six, not bad for a guy that my Doctors tried to get my Wife to put me in the hospital because it would be so difficult for her to care for me and she said NO that when he gets better he will be upset that he was ever in a home. So I think I will keep her because she is also kinda pretty as well. Garrell Patterson

If so go to the start of the article on the top left corner of page 104 and then look at the last two columns on top of the opposite page 105 and see if you might have seen that name anywhere before. Ihave been getting HotRod or buying it off the newsstand since I was ten or twelve years old and consider it the Bible of car mags.but this month they start the new HotRod, with new departments more nolstalgia stories and pictures and it appears to be fifty percent thicker but that has nothing to do with the article I mentioned. I accidently saw it just flipping thrugh it. Garrell Patterson

There has been a rule change in the class that I landspeed race my 03 SS Silverado in, where before you could not run headers now you can. I have Dougs Headers, remote controll cutouts, would short tube headers work just as well as longtubes? With the cutouts open I Garreshould get the effect of running open headers. I will be making power all through the power band so what do you think? Garrel Patterson

I am late finding this thread but one of the things I had done to my truck in getting more hp to run in the production pickup class in the East Coast Timing Assoc. landspeed event in Wilmington, Ohio was to install Crane full rollertip rocker arms with beehive valve springs. I also installed .100 wall thickness 3/8" pushrods for reliability. The change made 12 hp on the dyno at the rear wheels. It is like a small cam change and with the remote controll cutouts open I can even hear a diference in the exhaust. That change along with porting the throttle body and retuning picked up 6 mph in the standing mile/ Garrell

Volant dual horn cold air induction,ported throttle body, 1:8to1 ratio fullrollertip Crane rocker arms, beehive valve springs, .100 wall thickness 3/8"pushrods for reliability, Dougs Headers remote controll electric cutouts, HP custom tuneup. I find the closest convenience store and before going into the track I put 48 lbs. of air in each tire and I work it out where I only have between 1/2 and 1/4 tank of gas and then I add two cans of octane booster. The shift points are set at 6,200 rpms and the rev limiter at 6,500 rpms. When I ran 133.869 I went through the time traps at 5700/5800 rpms so I had 400 rpms from taching out. Even if the 4l60e trans would shift into od at wide open throttle I would lose so many rpms that I would never regain them. Check out the top left corner page 104 and the last two columns on the opposite page 105 of this months new and improved HotRod Magazine and see if there is a name you recognize! Garrell

Still run 20" tall tires,Ihave installed 1:8 to 1 ratio full roller tip Crane rockers, bee-hive valve springs and .100 thickness 3/8" pushrods as a precautionary thing. Ported throttle body, Volant cai, custom hp tuneup, and remote controll Dougs Headers cutouts. Checkout article starting on page 104 of this months HotRod magazine top left carner and then on the top two columns of the oposite page 105. Made the decision last night to go back one more time to run 137 if the wind will be good and claim two more records. Garrell

The above question before the post sumitted by itself was how uch will short tube headers help me? When I open the cutots it should give me the full effect of the headers don't you think? Garrell

I did ask for some opinions and I guess I got buried at posts no. 14 under the Hellloooo thread, so if you will take the time and help me I would appreciate it and I wil try not to make such a mistake the next time, thanks. Garrell

I was right in the middle of doing header research when I found this thread followed it through realizing it was several years old and then I skipped ahead and see it is still going, headers is one item everyone has a different opinion on but I do need some opinioins from those of you that have some experience with a similar situation. For the last 1 1/2 yrs. I have continually been making modifications to my 03 SS Silverado and landspeed race it. I went from a programmer, cai and dual exhaust and ran a best of 126.999 in the standing mile and set my first landspeed record on the Maxton Mile and we all know that the trucks weigh over 5600 lbs. w/ no driver. Then almost two months ago with 1:8 to 1 ratio full roller rockers with behive valve springs and heavy wall 3/8" pushrods, ported throtle body, Doug's Headers remote controll electric cutouts , Flowmaster true dual exhaust (doesn't matter after the cutouts ), tonno cover and a HP Tuneup for 425 hp. I run in production pickup so I had stayed away from a cam change and headers, but after I set two landspeed records I am going to do more 1/8 mile dragracing so I am loking for low end hp and tork . Everyone says that I can pickup 20-25 hp with headers. On my Corvette I know longtube headers work the best and make hp you can feel. Do I need long tube or shorty headers and I want ceramic coated if I can get them. On the Vette I used longtube with a x-pipe and everything bolted and clamped right in. I don't want to mess with the cutouts, will the shorty headers match right up where the exhaust manifold connects. Ihave had a bad experience in the past with the Pacesetter headers as well and budget is a consideration on my project. Garrell Paterson

You have been there have you ever been to one of the Show n Go weekends, if not you have got to go. It's such a nostalgic place and the biggest names in dragracing use to live there. Are you from Rome, I live off Hwy. 100 just north of Tallapoosa. Garrell Patterson

Thanks I will take you up on that offer, might be a couple of days as I am a little under the weather and the temp is going to be 106 today. Garrell

Black not blue but before it got so hot I go through Rome on the way to my friends family owned dragstrip. Paradise dragstrip in Calhoun, Ga. They celebrated the 50th aniversary of the opening of the track last year. Mr. Otto Timms built the track himself with his own equipment in the cotton field behind his home, but Mr. Timms passed away in March but Mrs. Timms and her children including Lee vow that the track will never be shut down or the property sold.

I have true dual exhaust systems including mufflers it is a flowmaster system, then I have Dougs headers, remote controll cutouts for times when I really want to make some noise. I have a Volant cold air induction system, a ported throttle body and 1:8 to1 full roller tip rocker arms with beehive valve springs and just as a precautionary measure .100 wall thickness 3/8" pushrods then an hp dyno tuneup for what equates to 425 flywheel horsepower. The rev limiter is raised to 6,500 rpm's and shift points are at 6,200 rpm. This is all done for me to run in a production pickup landspeed races. I am also going to dragrace some later this fall. Garrell

I don't know how to post pictures before you start asking but maybe when it cools of I can get my son in law to take some pictures and I can email them to someone that would post them for me. Last week my good friend Bob that owns and runs a hotrod shop came down to my shop and I helped him install a five piece black billet grille in my black 03 SS Silverado truck. then I installed black or smoked headlight and running light covers. The gold billet bowtie had become faded so we took it out and used the appropriate primer and then sprayed it bright red. The five piece billet grille did not replace the grey brake ducts in the bumper so again we took the ducts out and used the appropriate primer and then painted the entire ducts a medium black. The new grilles, light covers, bowtie, and brake ducts looks fantastic and when I pull up front first somewhere that they know my truck and everyone thinks I have traded trucks, I will try to get pictures. Garrell

Forgive me Father for I am thinking of sinning! I have owned Corvettes almost continualy for 40 years and I have a 48,000 nile 03 SS Silverado with 425 hp and is the holder of three landspeed records, truck is black and just installed a black 5 pcs. billett grille, smoked headlight, parking light covers and painted the grille bowtie red, my Corvette is a 21.000 mile black 98 Coupe with new wheels, mesh inserts in all the front openings, I have longtube headers with a x-pipe on order and have a Volant cai in the shop and when the exhaust is here I am going to have the LSx performance shop that prepares my SS race truck port the throttle body and do a HP tune up. I just saw the first pictures and specs for the new 1LE Camaro due out this fall which is designed to fall between an SS and a ZL1 Camaro. I bought a new 1LE in 1993 and as hard as it is to keep the Vette and the SS S looking immaculate all the time and drive them in addition to my go to, daily driver37 Chevy hotrod truck, keeper I am seriously thinking of trading the Corvette and the SS Silverado in on a red with the blacked out plenum hood and black wheels1le. The truck looks better than ever and the Corvette has never had a raindrop on it and is going to be fast when I get my plans completed. I would keep the 37 truck which I run with a hillburn carb scoop, no hood, headers uncapped and red to yelow to white flames. I would miss the S and the Vette but I would have one car to pamper and drive and keep clean and maybe dragrace, do some autocross and maybe some track events. What do you think? Garrell Patterson

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You will never regret, I have a black C5 Corvette thats always clean and shining and has new polished wheels but I get more thumbs up and waves when I drive my 03 black SS Silverado. I took delivery last week on black billet grile, smoked headlight and taillight covers and I hold three landspeed records in my truck. Congratulations

A, B, C, D etc. are engine cu. in. designation and they are the same for every class and there is dozen of classes. You have to start off in your designated classes but then you can take your chances and move up in class but not down. Garrell

Sounds like that is going to be a great combination, there is so much potential in a LQ9. I landspeed race my SSS and at 5800+ lbs. with me in it I have worked my way up from 123.xxx mph the first time I made a run to setting three landspeed records last Oct, and six weeks ago with a best ever speed of 133,869 with a constant 25 mph wind quartering at me in the drivers side fender and door. I stil wasn't tached out when I went through the traps, I feel sure if the wind had not been blowing I would have gone 135 mph.That is with stock camshaft, heads and exhaust manifolds in order to run in production pickup classes. Your truck will weigh what, 1200 lbs. lighter? Then with the performance modifications I have made and hedders, intake and maybe a cam change you could be making 475 to 500 flywheel horsepower which would make one hell of a super truck ! Thinkwhat a supercharger or turbocharger would do, can you think 625 hp? Garrell