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Thought you guys might be interested in this. Some guy is already in the 12's with this stage 5 kit. Intense motorsports

A 415 should easily be able to make 600 N/A hp. 430 is pathetic.

There's already a guy running 12's in his cobalt ss. Its making me consider getting one for a daily driver.

Get electric cutouts. Elimated my resonance completely and sounds badass at WOT.

It will probably end up costing more.

Definately worth the dough from what ive heard on the cobaltss forums.

Sorry about that man. I keep forgeting.

Thank god.

Cool little cars. I would like to have one for my daily driver.

I didn't know there where smart blonde jokes. Lete alon smart blondes.

I thought it was pretty cool even thought he didn't break the record. 7 minutes is pretty damn long, especially considering he did it exhausted after spending 180hrs in that damn tank.

The 4L60E has a standard output shaft and can break under hard shifts. The 4L65E output shaft is hardend and can also break from excessivly harsh shifts, but I only know of one ever breaking and it was because of the line pressure and shift timings he was using with the Zippy kit. From what I've found the weekest parts of the 65E in the case of the SSS trucks is the input drum (cracks right where the input shaft is pressed in), the pump (has been known to internally explode and fail), and the forward sprag (this is something that will break under a hard launch if you pre-load the trans too hard). As for the weight difference, if I recall from shipping the 80/85E is 50-75lbs heavier depending on torque converter choice. There is another advantage to the 80E that will be of a big help and that is the taller first gear. The guys running big power are running into traction problems and making the first gear taller will likely help the truck launch softer for the first 10 feet or so allowing it to get hooked and the suspension to transfer weight. The biggest drawback of the 80/85E is that it has a 4-7% higher parasitic drag meaning that you will lose some of your power to the tires when swapping to the bigger trans. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im sure this will sound stupid, but if I go with a 4L80 will the input drum, forward sprag etc. be stronger or are they using the same ones from the 4L65? FLT has a 2.75 first gear set for there 4L80.Finishlinetrans 2.75 seems really tall, but I do plan on making a ton of torque so maybe I could take advantage of it. Would FLT's 300m input shaft be worth upgrading to as well? Would that shaft work with this kit? So 4-7% higher parastic drag with the 4L80, what kind of % increase would that equate to (an estimate) as far as power loss % to the wheels compared to a 4L65? Thanks again zip, you the man. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The 80E uses all together different parts from the 65E. You won't have to worry about those parts breaking. I would recomend just using the stock 2.48 gear that the 80E comes with as this will help with traction on the launch. Once you get into the 600hp and higher range the AWD that everyone loves actually begins to make it harder to hook than a 2wd with Cal Trac's and slicks. I am not familier with the input shaft from FLT and after my last encounter with Chuck I could care less if I ever saw another one of his products again. I'll never recomend anyone ever go see that **** for parts or a trans... the 4-7% higher parasitic drag is compared to the 65E. As an example if you had a 600RWHP truck with a 65E, you'd lose an estimated 24-42RWHP when going to the 80E. The upside to this is that with the 80E you can add parts to gain that power back and have less worry about breakage. For example if you were running a 150 shot of nitrous with your 65E, you could run a 250 or 300 shot of nitrous with a well built 80E and not have much worry about breakage. You pretty much can easily get back the amount of power loss from going to the 80E. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Those wheels should look really good on there.

There all hot, but urula is real hot.

I lift a little. Stats: 6'2", 243lbs, 10% body fat. 360lbs bench, 500 lbs deadlift.

Dude, just do a search and youll find a hundred threads about this.

Ok guys, for those who are interested. As of now first on the to do list is the 4L80 swap (FLP level 5 4L80, speed enginering 4L80 kit, allen nelson tuning for 4L80) kit and tranny installed by Toy Shop. The basic motor I would like to use (roughly speaking, no set plans as of now) World products tall deck lsx Warhawk block (4.125" bore), Callies Magnum XL 4.250" stroke crank, manley light weight rods, cam in the 250's durattion .650 lift, ETP ls7 heads, either an ls7 intake or a sheet metal intake designed for the ls7 heads and 11.0:1 CR. Goal for the motor will be 700 N/A hp, possibly more. Exhaust will consist of custom 2" headers, magnaflows new cats and 4" exhaust. I would like to get it running well for a while and try to get into the 11's N/A. I know its gonna be tough, but it might be possible. After that a 200-300 shot of nitrous to get me into the 10's. At this point the chances of me meeting this goal because of the total cost is about 50/50. If I dont end up doing this motor I will probably do a blown 408 or something. Here's some info on the Warhawk block for those that havn't seen it. Its gonna be better than the c5r block and cheaper. ls1tech.com warhawk block thread. Here is a link to an awesome article on the Warhawk block and warhawk heads. Warhawk article Only thing bad about this block and heads is that the release date has been pushed back to about august-september.

that would be nice, but you would have to hook me up with your smog guy! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes if i find one ill let you know ;) ditto for you <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's my boy.

Sorry man, slim already gave me the cash.

Your definatley gonna need a hook up on smog (like I will), because there's no way your passing with your future plans.

4L80, big cubes, and alot of nitrous. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SWEET!!!!!!!!!! 454??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im trying to keep my plans on the down low (so someone else doesn't do it first), but yes a 454 is definately option #1 right now if my financial situation alows me too. It will be probably be another 3-6 months though before I do anything so....

4L80, big cubes, and alot of nitrous.