2006_superado

under $30K?.... can anyone walk in there and get that kinda deal if they put a deposit down or is it only not marked up because your dad works there?. also if you don't mind what is the minimum deposit you could put to secure one?.

have you tried it on your SSS?... and if so did you do it in a equal test to compare if it actualy did anything?.

even i don't like it.. and as you can guess i'm a huge fan os anything superhero especialy SUPERMAN so it's not the theme i have a problem with but the design and execution that troubles me. it's a shame.. if he had put all that money into it and done it right, it could've been a nice car imo.

yes the Z/28 had suspension upgrades, i'm a little confused by your next statment (above in bold), are you saying it had 775hp 400 more then the ss396 with l78 375hp or that it had 400 hp total?... either way it's not exactly right, the 302 dz was underated and maybe pushed out 400hp at a high rpm but could'nt match the torque of the 396SS L78 and both of them came with the m22 4-spd. these old z/28's were'nt the best street cars because of the race inspired engine which was limited to 305 ci max displacement because of trans am rules. so i would'nt say the Z/28 was top dog but it was right at the top with a properly equipped SS, and what you gave up on the SS in track upgrades you could make up for with all the amenitys a SS came with i think they were equally great in there own way.. the only reason the Z/28 demands so much more then the SS is because of simple supply and demand the Z/28 is much rarer then the SS. please read above.. and below you will both find that there performance was almost identical (with more of an edge going to the SS depending on period testing). i think the only reason that the Z/28 was a tick faster then the SS in one of the comparo's is because of weight transfer and lower torque obviously making it easy to launch then the SS but if you added slicks to both cars the SS would've at least matched if not beaten the Z/28 imo of course theres no way to go back in time and prove this but you would all have to agree it is well within reason. the first two articals are from howstuffworks.com... Announced in early 1967, some six months after the Camaro itself, the Z-28 was conceived by Chevrolet engineer and product-promotion specialist Vincent W. Piggins. The impetus, as Piggins later explained, was "to develop a performance image for the Camaro that would be superior to Mustang's. Along comes [sports Car Club of America] in creating the Trans-Am sedan racing class for professional drivers in 1966 ... I suggested a vehicle that would fit this class and, I believe ... it gave them the heart to push ahead.... " Initially, the Trans-Am involved Group II production cars with wheelbases of 116 inches or less and engines of no more than 305 cubic inches. Certification required at least 1,000 be built per model year. Chevy met this by entering the standard V-8 Camaro as a Group I sports car (over 305 cid) and the Z-28 option under Group II. Rule-bending aside, the Z-28 was a racer's delight: heavy-duty suspension, power front-disc brakes, metallic-lined rear-drum brakes, 15 x 6 Corvette wheels mounting 7.75 x 15 tires, special hood with functional air intakes, close- or wide-ratio four-speed gearbox, and a new 302 V-8. The last came from slotting the crankshaft from the older 283 engine into the then-current 327 block, yielding 302.4 cid -- just under the limit. Outputs were conservatively stated as 290 horsepower and as many pounds/feet of torque, but actual bhp was nearer 400, thanks to a huge four-barrel Holley carb, oversize intake manifold, big ports and valves, wild 346-degree-duration cam, and cast-iron headers. Chevrolet called the Z-28 "the closest thing to a 'Vette, yet," and not without reason. Car and Driver clocked one at a blazing 6.7 seconds 0-60 mph, versus 7.8 seconds for the typical four-speed SS350 and slightly under 11 seconds for an automatic 210-bhp 327. Handling was racer-sharp; braking as good as it could be with contemporary technology. Keep reading to learn about the styling and sales of the 1967-1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28. ________________________________________________________________________________ ___ Chevy worked to improve the behavior of the big-block Camaro's rear suspension. But the 396 had so much torque and put so many pounds over the nose -- 59.3 percent of an SS 396's weight was on the front axle -- that the lightly loaded rear axle struggled to get the power down in hole shots. "At the mere suggestion of work, the axle leaps and hops, judders and bucks..." said Road Test. "The rear suspension is (the) weak linkage between axle and car, and it drags the 396 Camaro down to the level of just another Camaro." Savvy street racers attacked the problem with aftermarket traction kits, which cut ETs significantly. And as time would prove, no '69 was "just another Camaro." The 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 Specifications Wheelbase, inches: 108.1 Weight, lbs: 3,790 Number built: 13,970 Base price: $3,100 Top Available Engine Type: ohv V-8 Displacement, cid: 396 Fuel system: 1 x 4bbl. Compression ratio: 11.0:1 Horsepower @ rpm: 375 @ 5600 Torque @ rpm: 415 @ 4600 Representative Performance 0-60 mph, sec: 6.8 1/4 mile, sec. @ mph: 14.7 @ 98.7 ________________________________________________________________________________ ___ and if what musclecarclub.com says is right then the SS was even faster at times?... 1967 model info, Performance: (Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 6.9 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.85 sec @ 101mph. (SS350) 350/295: 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds @ 90 mph. (SS396) 396/325bhp: 0-60 in 6.0 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.5 sec @ 99mph. 1968 only list the SS so it's N/A. 1969 model info, Performance: (Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph. (SS396) 396/375bhp: 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.7 sec @ 98.7mph. (COPO 9561) 427/425bhp: 0-60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 102mph. (COPO 9560) 427/430bhp: 0-60 in 5.3 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.16 sec @ 110 mph.

i only hope they can come out with something like this it would be great if they did?...

happy birthday everyone! should be a good day for everyone if that power of 8 stuff i read about has any truth to it?... anyhow, stay safe everyone.

personaly i like the oval tipped pan better my self. it would work on my truck but i already have a sir micheals steel pan.. so maybe next time?..

i tell you guys what since i don't think anyone wants to waste there money on crap, how about if we all chip in like $5-$10 and buy one we could have a mini raffle and the guy that wins it has to dyno test it and do a controled test of exactly equal distance both city and highway both with and with out it and then we'll know if it works or not... i think anything is worth a little investigation before just dismissing it, i don't think the human race would have got very far if we just dismissed every idea without proof. of course we would have to discuss the details if anyone was interested?. and even if it were to make 4-5hp and gain 0.5-1.0mpg i think everyone on here would want one for the price?... remember it's just an idea, and it would be interesting at the very least.

as long as your not both on the same end then i think it's all good, but i'd probably crack up though it just freaks me out bad when there both on the same side in the same area and there parts are touching each other as well! thats just plain sick! :puke:

it's new to me! that is freakin hilarious!

i think that would be cool if it goes through, imo.

thats what i got to. all around you can't go wrong with a ps3.

i actually like it i'm not big on the new chevy front end (gmc is nice though), so i think it's a big improvement imho. the wheel gap is pretty bad

i realy never even notice if it's under 5 it was'nt to bad here more of rolling shake then a rattling one imo?... nothing broke or fell down i did'nt even leave my house, when it's a real bad one you can tell and this did'nt feel like a threat. but i grew up in cali so i'm pretty used to the quakes.

remember.. age is just a number!. Happy B-day everyone!

happy b-day

i always used to go to sun valley right around san fernando rd and tuxford theres a ton of glass shops.. cause all the wrecking yard are there. and there usualy cheaper then anywhere else.

yeah, at least yours only does it every few weeks.. mine pops up every morning!

even with boost (sc or trbo) or n.o.s. your going to hit a wall at some point... for example, everthing else being equal you could get a 350 to keep up with a 454 with a power adder but in the end if you add the same power adder to the 454 theres no way it could match it... the bigger the motor the more you can get out of it. there is NO replacement for DISPLACEMENT

sounds great!.. glad you got them on and in use so quick.. way better then sitting in my garage for a year!.. lol. i agree with the others a tune will wake up your truck and give it a whole new attitude

i seen your topic and at first i laughed, then i was like and then i realized you were talking about the "Driver Information Center" lmao...

that was hilarious!.. but sadly i see stuff like that all the time

congrats on placing in the show, thats gotta feel good!

that was great! i wanna be a dog in my next life! and before you guys say it, i mean a straight dog, no ball sniffin for me!