Bowtie70SS Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 First off I wanna start by saying that I am not trying to offend any of the great, honest, hard working and honorable police officers but here's the story: My wife's cousin(we'll can him Jim) who is 19 and lives in a small Kansas town was pulled over the other day. He got a ticket because he did not have proof of insurance with him. He does have insurance but had a new car and didn't have the card yet. Here is where the story gets good. It seems the incompotent Roscoe P. Coletrain of a cop gave Jim both copies of the ticket. Jim being young and inexperienced and a honest guy didn't realize this at the time and went home. A couple of hours later Roscoe shows up at Jim's house and knocks on the door. Jim does not answer the door so Roscoe proceeds to get inside of Jim's car and retrieve the copy of the ticket he needed to process the infraction. Jim reported this to someone...the details I got were a little sketchy...and he was told not to worry about it. Well Jim got a letter in the mail saying his license was gonna be suspended if he didn't provide proof he had insurance. The next day he got another letter saying his liscense is suspended and now requires a reinstatement fee and blah blah blah. I think that the cop is a thief and should be prosecuted for tresspasing at the very least. The way I look at it if you F up you gotta be a man and accept the consequences...The cop expected Jim to. I think this is dirty and low down and this cop should be fired for his tresspassing and thievery. Later Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerrider Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Thats messed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixsupersport Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 why did jim not answer the door? it could have changed the outcome. the ticket is bogus, if i mess one up which rarely happens i man up and 86 it. as for going in to the vehicle, thats a grey area, i'm sure jim can have something done about that. i do not see why his license was suspended........maybe for too many violations????? who knows. i think it can all be worked out in court as for the additional charges jim wants against the police. jim is going to have to get a lawyer, jim is going to have to go to the judge, and it's a whole new can of worms that i guarantee jim does not want to open. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxtnlne Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) That sucks. There not all bad...just the ones that pull me over. Oh by the way I just went to court two weeks ago for a right turn only ticket and the cop didnt show! Can I say DISMISSED Edited January 21, 2007 by nxtnlne (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtie70SS Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 why did jim not answer the door? it could have changed the outcome. the ticket is bogus, if i mess one up which rarely happens i man up and 86 it. as for going in to the vehicle, thats a grey area, i'm sure jim can have something done about that. i do not see why his license was suspended........maybe for too many violations????? who knows. i think it can all be worked out in court as for the additional charges jim wants against the police. jim is going to have to get a lawyer, jim is going to have to go to the judge, and it's a whole new can of worms that i guarantee jim does not want to open. good luck I think Jim was just scared that he was gonna get another ticket or something. He didn't even realize that he had the officer's copy of the ticket. Also I'm sure he got his license got suspended for failure to show proof of insurance. I'm not familiar with Kansas law but in Ohio I think that the 2nd time you fail to show proof when stopped you are automatically suspended. I don't think he is looking to have the cop prosecuted or anything but I think what he did was wrong. If he is willing to resort to tresspassing and thievery then how good of a cop could he be? I'm pretty sure he's gonna come out ok on this I'll have to wait and see. Later Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packjh Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 eh man thas Fked Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinblack Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 as for going in to the vehicle, thats a grey area, i'm sure jim can have something done about that. Are you kidding me???? Where is the grey area on breaking into someones car??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2003SS Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Most cops think they can do whatever they want and they are human, they will make decisions to save their own skin with no regard as to how it destroys someone elses life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissfans03ss Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I got a ticket last winter because i could not show my latest insurance card,the one i had was about 3years old so i go to court talk to the prosecutor who says you look like an honest person just make a small donation to an organization and i'll forget the hole thing so 20 bucks later its all over with,the whole thing took me 30min.max.but the whole ticket was b.s. because i even offered to call my insurance co. who are on speed dial,but mr officer said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) These are two completely separate issues, he needs to handle the proof of insurance in a timely matter regardless of the other situation. AFA the cop's later behavior, yes that is a clear cut case of trespass. And they have laws about trespass Mr. P. Edited January 21, 2007 by misterp (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitches040 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Well I don't know Kansas' laws ... But I do know that Mass. Prints your Insurance Info, right on the Registration. If it was a new car, and there is insurance, but just no card in possession. You should be able to appeal the ticket in court, and have it "Nul Pros" = Not Prosecuted AFA the cop's later behavior, yes that is a clear cut case of trespass. And they have laws about trespass Mr. P. As for this .... It is not a case of Tresspass, it is a case of an "Illegal Search". Due to the car being parked on "Curtilage" ... the following will only apply to searching it. 1 - Consent 2 - Search Warrant 3 - Exigent Cirrcumstances It's called Mapp vs. Ohio ... is the case law regarding Searches. And that is from US Supreme Court, so it applys to all states. Unless the state has enacted stricter laws regarding such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterp Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 .... It is not a case of Tresspass, it is a case of an "Illegal Search".And that's why I'm not an attorney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oo p0op oO Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 nail his ass to the wall. rarely do cops get in trouble for stuff they do. and i think thats why they try and pull this kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PladdPezzPunk Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 that just dosn't sound right. i hope it gets fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 WTF? that sounds like a cut and dry trespassing case to me they screw with you if you don't square away that insurance crap ASAP, I know from experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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