SuperDave Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 It's time for trailering 101 kiddies! I've gotta know why our trucks can't tow with a fifth wheel. What is the difference between pulling a trailer with 5500 lbs on the bumper hitch, tow bar or gooseneck or fifth wheel? It seems to me that the weight being over the axle is much safer than it hanging a foot behind the bumper! Please, educate me! I'll probably never use the information, the only trailer I pull is a small 10 foot utility trailer for the bike, mowers, limbs, etc... and it hangs off of my bumper ( or trailering hitch, mounted to the frame) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdaly Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Damn Autoguy, that was a little much. Sometimes your post make you look like a total ****, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTOGUY Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Damn Autoguy, that was a little much. Sometimes your post make you look like a total ****, but that's just my opinion. Maybe it was a little much, but I was trying to make point that just because Ben said it was ok doesn't mean it's right. But then again he will probably delete this because it's JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperkiller97 Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Autoguy , Easy does it . It was just an opinion . If someone asks me if they should run nitrous I always say yes , doesnt mean I will cover any damage . I know its a risk but thats what lifes all about . Yes he bought the wrong truck , but he would take a heavy loss trading it in now . If he loses 10k on his trade or has to buy a new transmission for his SS that is alot cheaper . You have to weigh the options . Maybe he can find an aftermarket warranty that will cover him . Talk to the insurance company and see if they cover a fifth wheel thats not exceding his rated tow rate . You can only do what you can do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilveradoSS04 Posted March 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Damn Autoguy, that was a little much. Sometimes your post make you look like a total ****, but that's just my opinion. Just my opinion... Anyway, it's somthing he is going to have to choose. Just like when my dad told me that if I mod my Impala SS, it'll void my warranty. Look at my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mike Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Thanks for all the great feedback, youze guys Rock... Well here it is, my dealer here won't bug me (but he will not sell or install the hitch in the box) if something should happen, so I'm ok at home, it's when I'm travelling, some will go to no end to make life miserable and go by the book. Everyone has run into one of these clowns in their travels... For everyones reading pleasure, Page 4-68 of the Owners Manual has right under the large Font If you decide to pull a trailer Notice: If your vehicle is equipped with the SS trim package, do not pull a fifth-wheel camper or you could damage your vehicle. As well in the Trailering with Chevy Trucks Brochure Page 3 in the chart, no red (fifth-wheel) bar graph for the SS and on page 9 at bottom of page next to the same Arrival Blue I have, last phrase indicates The Silverado SS is not intended for fifth wheel towing. In the meantime I have spoken to the Trailer towing Guru in Canada Garth Cane from RV Lifestyle Magazine and he cannot understand why GM has chosen to insert this and this is the reply he gave me via e-mail. Here is the specifications for the K1500 Silverado SS- there is no mention of a ban on fifth wheel towing. I am waiting for a reply from Richard Jacobs at GM Canada Garth W. Cane Technical Director RV Lifestyle Magazine Taylor Publishing Group 1020 Brevik Place,Ste 5 Mississauga, ON L4W 4N7 So that's where I stand. My last option will be to use the Customer Satisfaction Procedure listed on page 7-2 and come to a resolution with the Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Plan. I bought the SS over the GMC Sierra Denali because I was told I could tow and the SS looks much cooler. A little down in the dumps... Dr Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 So, I never read in that book why we can't tow a fifth wheel? Is the trans the limiting factor, if so, why.... or does nobody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Mike Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Ya I know I'm with you 100%, I saw that in the 2004 brochure too and RV Lifestyles Garth Cane confirmed it see end, he really provide a lot of specs He's trying to get an answer from GM Re: Owners Manual and Trailering with Chevy Truck Brochure. No fifth-wheel trailering, It makes no sense... There's nothing in the 2003 Chevy Truck brochure or One page Cardboard Silverado SS 2003 handout. I even bought the top of line GM extended warranty that the Business Manager recommended because I was going to be towing a fifth-wheel. A lot of fun and a very cheezed off at her husband wife, oh well... Chevrolet Silverado SS OVERVIEW Model: Chevrolet Silverado SS Trim level: LT Body style / driveline: Extended Cab / AWD Manufacturing location: Oshawa Ontario, Canada ENGINE AWD Vortec H.O. 6000V8 Type: 6.0-liter OHV V8 with cast-iron block Displacement (cu in / cc): 364 / 5967 Bore x stroke (in/mm): 4 x 3.62 / 101.6 x 92 Cylinder head material: Cast aluminum Valvetrain: Overhead valve with two valves per cylinder Ignition system: Coil near plug, platinum-tipped spark plugs, low resistance spark plug wires Fuel delivery: sequential central-port fuel injection Compression ratio: 10.0:1 Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm): 345 / 257 @ 5200 Torque (lb-ft Nm @ rpm): 380 / 516 @ 4000 Recommended fuel: 91 octane minimum, premium fuel only Maximum engine speed: 5600 Estimated fuel economy (mpg city / hwy / combined): 12 / 16 / 13 TRANSMISSION AWD 4L65-E Type: Four-speed heavy-duty Electronic automatic Gear ratios (:1): First: 3.06 Second: 1.63 Third: 1.00 Fourth: 0.70 Reverse: 2.29 Final drive ratio: 4.10:1 CHASSIS / SUSPENSION Front: Independent with computer selected torsion bars, 32mm stabilizer bar, gas-pressurized monotube shocks Rear: Solid axle with semi-elliptic, variable-rate, two-stage multileaf springs, gas-pressurized monotube shocks Traction Control System: All-speed traction control Steering type: Power recirculating ball Ratio: 14.0:1 Steering wheel turns, Lock-to-lock: 3.4 BRAKES Type: (All) vacuum booster, power, four-wheel disc, four-wheel ABS, DRP Rotor diameter x thickness (mm x mm): front: 304.7 x 29; rear: 325 x 20 WHEELS / TIRES Wheel size & type: 20 x 8.5-inch five-spoke polished aluminum Tire size & type: P275/55R-20 Goodyear Eagle radials DIMENSIONS Exterior Short Box Extended Cab Wheelbase (in / mm): 143.5 / 3644 Overall length (in / mm): 227.6 / 5781 Overall width (in / mm): Mirrors folded 81.5 / 2070 Mirrors extended 93.1 / 2363 Overall height (in / mm): 72.2 / 1834 Track (in / mm): Front: 65.0 / 1651 Rear: 66.0 / 1676 Ground to top of load floor (in / mm): 30.7 / 780 Step-in height: Front door: 21.2 / 538 Access door: 21.5 / 546 Approach angle: 28.8 degrees Breakover angle: 20.5 degrees Departure angle @ step bumper: 25.8 degrees Base curb weight (lbs): 5298 Interior Front Rear Head room (in / mm): 41.0 / 1041 38.4 / 975 Leg room (in / mm): 41.3 / 1049 33.7 / 856 Shoulder room (in / mm): 65.2 / 1656 66.3 / 1684 Hip room (in / mm): 61.4 / 1560 61.5 / 1562 Cargo Box Cargo volume (cu ft / liters): 56.9 / 1611.2 Length at floor (in / mm): 78.7 / 1998 Width at floor (in / mm): 60.2 / 1529 Width at top (in / mm): 61.9 / 1572 Width between wheelhousing (in / mm): 50.0 / 1270 Tailgate width (in / mm): 60.0 / 1539 Inside height (in / mm): 19.5 / 495 Capacities GVWR (lbs / kg): 6400 / 2903 Payload (lbs / kg): 1490 / 676 Trailer towing (lbs / kg): 7500 / 3405 Fuel tank (gal / liters): 26 / 98.4 Engine oil (qts / liters): 6 / 5.6 Cooling system (qts / liters): 14.8 / 14.0 Dr Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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