SSleepingbeauty Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) I think this is a awesome article, and it explains alot of what happened to the big 3. And how Toyota became #1. But if you read the end of the article, it is truly sad, but the truth. So for anyone that owns a Toyota, don't ever complain about the condition of our Country or our economy. Because those are the one's that are part of the problem, along with the big 3 for shooting themselves in the foot. JMO http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Inves...ota.aspx?page=1 Edited October 3, 2007 by SSleepingbeauty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMySilvSS Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Well, 13.2 billion reasons, actually. Toyota earned a $13.2 billion profit in 2006. And where, exactly, did those profits go? It seems there's one very big thing that isn't American about Toyota, and that is where those profits go at the end of the day. To me, that makes Toyota a Japanese company, plain and simple. A company that is now inexorably woven into the fabric of this country, but a Japanese company nonetheless. This is why I will never buy a Japanese car, regardless of where it was made or who made it. I am American and I will drive American until the day I die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivierakid55 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 im all for american pride and supporting my country but the problem i have is the big3 doesnt have as good a product overall as toyota or honda for that matter. there may be instances where one vehicle in a specific sector is better but across the board they make a better product than the big 3. an example: when your out buying a new or used car does it matter to you that your buying a better product or do you say eh ill just buy something inferior cause its made in the united states. sorry if this offends anyone but it matters to me. im gonna do whats financially best and in many cases that means buying an import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMySilvSS Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Why are you still driving a Chevy then??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolletSSS Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Im with you on that one...you know the big saying is that my Tundra is more American than your Silverado is getting old...quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman31 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 This is why I will never buy a Japanese car, regardless of where it was made or who made it. I am American and I will drive American until the day I die. I second that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyrome Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 i will say i own an import i also own 2 americans the SS being one of them at first i liked my infinti but the love affair went quick service is very expensive so i wont say never but i dont think i will buy another import again unless its one of 2 cars a bentley coupe drop top or an lamborghini murciealago drop top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaotik1 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Why is this now a shock to anyone? Yes they use american workers, but did everyone really think the money was staying here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitches040 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Why is this now a shock to anyone? Yes they use american workers, but did everyone really think the money was staying here? It is so true... Many people believe that crap about "Well it's an american car, due to being produced here in the states." ... And where do they think all the huge profits go??? They sure as hell are not going to leave them behind here in the USA. Of course they are going to take them with them. Like I said before in the "Toyota/Nascar" thread a few months back .... Original Thread ... I know, may be alittle off topic ... but here is my $ .02 cents ... on the start of the thread .... It's Called NAFTA and other Free Trade agreements ... The Japanese can import parts to the US, with no tarrif ... if the car came in as a whole unit, then the US government hits them with a high import tax. Same about NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) ... That is why most parts of your Chevrolets are made in Mexico, then Assembled in the USA. Also, these Japanese companies don't build these plants out of the goodness of their hearts ... They get HUGE tax credits, in states like Tennesse. So, by importing Parts, Assembling them in the US, saving money on the Import Tax/Tarrif, tax breaks for operating in some states. These companies are making huge profits, that just go back overseas .... BTW ... the money they would have spent on tarrifs, pays for most of our US labor force in these factories. that way, the profit per vehicle is much higher, then importing them straight from Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl11sec70dodge Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 there hasn't been an american made CAR that i would ever buy except a corvette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006_superado Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 im all for american pride and supporting my country but the problem i have is the big3 doesnt have as good a product overall as toyota or honda for that matter. there may be instances where one vehicle in a specific sector is better but across the board they make a better product than the big 3. an example: when your out buying a new or used car does it matter to you that your buying a better product or do you say eh ill just buy something inferior cause its made in the united states. sorry if this offends anyone but it matters to me. im gonna do whats financially best and in many cases that means buying an import. gm and even furd, have come a long way in the last ten years afa as quality and refinement goe's. 5 years ago when i bought my galant, i got it because it was a better car and more fuel efficient then anything american... but now it's a different story. the new gm's are very well built and considering the initial cost savings over a honda/toyota in the end your not saving anything buying an import. my friend drives an accord which cost just about the same as my impala but came with only basic options, a 4-cyl (34 mpg's), and hub caps. my impala V6 (31mpg) came fully loaded power everything heated leather seats, bose stereo, ipod jack, alloy wheels, spoiler, folding rear seats, steering wheel controls, and more if i think about it... my point is even he remarked on how well built it was and could'nt believe it cost the same as his honda. he then mentioned that he just test drove a lexus and that the impala felt like that on the inside and drove just as nice but for $10k less (of course the lexus would probably out handle my impala in the corners though). you can buy an equaly equipped impala for $3k-$4k less then a comparable honda/toyota.. so if the toyota is worth $3k-$4k more in a few years what would anyone accomplish?. and lets not forget the warranty differance. in the end, what anyone buys is up to them. 5 years ago i would have agreed with riviera, but keeping an open mind i realized that america is stepping up to the competition finally.. and now they deserve to be considered as a real option. Why is this now a shock to anyone? Yes they use american workers, but did everyone really think the money was staying here? obviously enough people do to keep them sleeping well at night while there import sit's in the driveway... maybe if more people bought american (now that there making a good product) our companys could open new plants here in the u.s. instead of building elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006_superado Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 there hasn't been an american made CAR that i would ever buy except a corvette you should take another look or read some of the latest comparisons and reviews.. they really are worth taking a look at now. and thats not just my oppinion, that is what the media has been saying more and more over the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Silv Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 When it comes down to it, nobody makes a better truck than GM. My work truck is a Tundra and I absolutley hate it. It does have decent power but I can't stand what they have done with the interior and exterior. I swear they put more thought into designing the storage compartments than they did on the exterior. Opening the door to get into the truck feels just like swinging open a barn door, it is freakin huge. But at the end of the day when I jump into my SS I only appreciate it that much more. But some people prefer Toyota over Chevy, and that is fine. JUST WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU DRIVE/OWN AND TAKE PRIDE IN THAT YOU OWN A GENERAL MOTORS VEHICLE. Oops, was I yelling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonm Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 my friend drives an accord which cost just about the same as my impala but came with only basic options, a 4-cyl (34 mpg's), and hub caps.my impala V6 (31mpg) came fully loaded power everything heated leather seats, bose stereo, ipod jack, alloy wheels, spoiler, folding rear seats, steering wheel controls, and more if i think about it... my point is even he remarked on how well built it was and could'nt believe it cost the same as his honda. he then mentioned that he just test drove a lexus and that the impala felt like that on the inside and drove just as nice but for $10k less (of course the lexus would probably out handle my impala in the corners though). The mileage thing is getting better too.... My '07 Impala SS gets 32 mpg on the highway, if you behave (yeah, not gonna happen.) When you can have a 4 cylinder import that gets 34mpg, or a big 'ol American V-8 that gets 32mpg, why would you buy Taiwaneze? I ordered my wife her SS for 24,676 out the door. What's a comparable Toy-toy go for? All this, and The General has a 100k warranty. Not that there was ever a chance that I'd buy foreign anyway. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I complain about the unions, but I would never buy a foreign car/truck. I was brought up to buy local. Hardware store, Lumberyard, even groceries. Doesn't matter. You support the ones that support you. I've yet to have a guy from Japan ask me to do a little work for him.... but the sales guy at the Chev dealership had me build him a $50k garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivierakid55 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 for the person asking me why i drive a chevy? cause when it came time to get a new truck it was a better option than the tundra at a better price. and i believe as far as trucks go it is as good if not better than the tundra. i also own an 07 honda accord v6, loaded and my wife and i looked at a lot of cars for around 30k and the honda was hands down the best in that price range. it isnt the flashiest looking or probably even the fastest. but it has the best resale and its repair record far exceeds that of the american brands in that class. and it gets from point a to point b for my wife mostly and that what matters. i also drive an 88 honda with 215000 miles on the clock on its original everything except clutch and timing belt. then i have a 93 nissan z as well. and a 69 riviera. and i come from previously driving a dodge dakota and before that a toyota t100 and before that a ford escort lx that drove well for me for a long time. previous to that i had a 95 lincoln xr7 that was a pos. back on track. all im saying is that it would be great if the money stayed in the us but if this is just coming to light for some of you then where have you been in the last ten years? is that gonna stop me from buying japanese? not at all. im sure a lot of the everyday and household stuff we all own or buy comes from overseas. thats the nature of the world we live in today. i also agree that the us automanufacturers have come a long way with quality control in the last few years. i still dont think and multiple publications support this, that they are on par with the big japanese companies. now when i buy a vehicle i am a lot more concerned with resale and also repair track record. whew im tired. need a coke now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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