scandore Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 I'am in Bakersfield California I would apreciate any help at all. I've been calling every shop I can and every body keeps saying they won't do it and to call that guy that told me no springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Here you go: Call these guys. I don't know anything about them personally, but they are doing a LS1 stroker transplant in a C4 vette. LT Motorsport 3901 Wible Rd #2 Bakersfield, CA, 93308 661-396-8100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adams2003 Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Well considering most cams are not over $400 and springs ~$200 pluslabor is around 1-3 hrs ($50-90/hr) it sounds like they are at least $1500 to 1800 off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandore Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 BigTex thanks for the info I called those guys $250.00 for install thats way better and they sound way more experienced. Only one problem they said they have done 15 LS6 cam swaps and they don't need to change the springs he says there is no bind and no other problems when you leave the stock springs. He also stated he has that cam in his 6.0 and has 60,000 miles with the cam in no problems. So what does a guy do I guess more looking around. Thanks everybody for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Well, you get to make the call. If you want upgraded springs, tell them to upgrade the springs. In 2001, the LS6 cam had .525 lift. It came with upgraded springs. In 02+, the Z also has upgraded springs as well as lighter valves. I have heard of a few guys running lower lift cams, like the comp 212/218 .529 lift cam, with the stock springs. I guess the stock springs will handle the .52x lift. BUT, the stock springs will not have the pressure to close the valves fast enough at high rpms. This will cause valve float and drain potiential power in the upper rpms. No way would I run the 02+ LS6 with stock springs. Just buy a set of 02+ LS6 springs, or comp 918s. I do think that that shop can do the cam swap for you, just make sure they do the springs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandore Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I think thats what I'm going to do. I checked and I can get 2003 ZO6 springs for $95 small price to pay. Is that all I need is springs or do I need caps and keys also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Just springs. Retainers and keepers can be reused without issue. Are you really budget minded? Have you considered one of the Comp 212/218 cams that are popular? I think you be happier with the comp over the LS6. You'll have more low end power with the comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I would not use the ZO6 cam with a stock torque converter it will be a dog out of the hole. Go with the Comp Cam ( can be ordered with the springs ) and you'll be much happier. If you plan on a torque converter swap then the ZO6 cam would be ok with a good stall to bring the motor up on the cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Also, with the 212/218 Comp cam you will not require any programming to be operational. It will improve with programming, but if you wanted to wait, you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 deffinitly replace the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsoftball Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Also, with the 212/218 Comp cam you will not require any programming to be operational. It will improve with programming, but if you wanted to wait, you could. Same one I have. Very happy with the results. Well at least until I take the plunge and fork out the $$$ for heads. Then it will be time to pull it out and get crazy. It is a never ending battle I always seem to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Anyone wanting to buy that Comp 212/218 cam Here you go: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2453389055 That is being sold by Lingenfelter's shop in Indiana. Class A shop and seller. The cam looks very good in the pictures. I think its a good deal. Expect to pay $350+ new, and $400 retail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandore Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 It's not really a budget issue. I have a Z06 cam with less than 5000 miles on it. My buddy gave it to me for free so I was thinking I could buy something else with the money I saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 To get the best perfornamce out of that LS6 cam, you should install an adjustable timing chain. That cam is retarded 2 degrees. That pushes power up higher and eats up the low end. If you advance it 4 degrees with a timing chain, you'd gain low end power, and not have to spin the cam as high to get to its peak. It will be worth the money. Here is a good option: http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?action=pr...=2267&pid=90939 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandore Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Thanks BigTex that sounds good. It looks like I've got some serious thinking to do about this cam for free or spending some money for the comp cam. Thanks again for all the advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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