TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 TurbochargedBerserker please start a phase II thread....lol this ones getting to long.. I'm looking into that Mega Squirt, that could open up a bunch of motor swap ideas like a LS1 Colorado.... If all I'd get was an injector code from the PCM....Humm... Stock PCM and the Mega Squirt running the fuel. But I'll wait to see how you do first. I wish you weren't having the troubles I can't wait to see your truck up and running. Dennis <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep all you get is injector codes and the "oh crap where's the maf" code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Come on Tex, Has he done anything simple in this build? LOL No, but that part of the problem. If it were me, I'd focus on getting one thing right at a time, verify its functioning correctly, then move on to the next item. Making all these changes at once may sound like good use of time and resources, but in the end it will end up taking longer and costing more. Just IMO. Now Erik - pull the megasquirt for now and get the truck running on its own so you can break in the motor and new "exhaust". Once all the physical bugs are worked out, go back to the fancy fueling. Richard <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah. The problem is the guy at the shop that pulled the wires out of one of the injector plugs and let them touch... PCM or MS, that's gonna put a crimp in your cruise and since the MS can be completely replaced for $280 or so, I'd rather have it happen the way it did If that guy hadn't made that little mistake, I would be doing max hp tuning this week and posting burnout pics. I completely disagree with you on the one step at a time approach being cheaper, Tex. Doing a piecemeal installation on this project would have nearly tripled the costs. The down time would have ended up being longer too, as the delays in my project had mostly to do with waiting on vendors, which we did in parallel The truck has already been running, and trust me on this, it would take a lot more to get the truck idling with the stock PCM than it did with the MS (20 minutes). Believe me, I've thought long and hard about taking the "easy way out" and just restitching the PCM to the injectors so I could drive the truck, but in the end it isn't really easy, and doesn't gain you anything except breaking the engine in a day or two sooner, and the price you pay for this is a bunch of tuning you have to do twice. Not to mention that the tuning to be done with the stock PCM is a much more involved process that wouldn't have been completed to the state that I'd have had a good running truck by the time the MS was supposed to be returned. You have to have a plan when your build means you are replacing almost everything on the truck. The plan should include the best, most cost effective way of doing things. In hindsight, when the clutches let go, I should have just done the tranny in November and not jumped up my plans on the block, as that would have given me more time on the checking the parts and making sure I had what I wanted, but it's all good on my end -- I'm getting what I wanted and what I planned to have, just not on the day I wanted it What's that thing they say: There are three possible attributes for any job: fast, good, and cheap. Feel free to pick any two. Well, I definately went good. You can figure out the second quality on your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I completely disagree with you on the one step at a time approach being cheaper, Tex. Doing a piecemeal installation on this project would have nearly tripled the costs. The down time would have ended up being longer too, as the delays in my project had mostly to do with waiting on vendors, which we did in parallel We have a little different mentality in this. I would be doing most of this on my own in my garage, up to my elbows in parts. You've hired a shop to ramrod the project for you. I would err on the cautious side and make sure I get each component done correctly. You've got an experienced team working with you on your build. My way would be the cheaper alternative, but I wouldn't be able to point fingers at anyone if I screwed something up. Then again, no one would know I screwed it up unless I told them. I'm getting what I wanted and what I planned to have, just not on the day I wanted it Thats all that really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 We have a little different mentality in this. I would be doing most of this on my own in my garage, up to my elbows in parts. You've hired a shop to ramrod the project for you. I would err on the cautious side and make sure I get each component done correctly. You've got an experienced team working with you on your build. My way would be the cheaper alternative, but I wouldn't be able to point fingers at anyone if I screwed something up. Then again, no one would know I screwed it up unless I told them. Oh yeah, I see the point there. I was planning on going that route originally, but it wasn't fun like it was when I was younger Maybe it's the heat, the extra 50 pounds or the fact that I live on a hill and couldn't get enough of the truck on a flat space to get the whole thing up in the air. Realistically, I think its because all my local gearhead buddies are now driving 4 door hondas with no project cars and have sold off their tools, etc. If I was doing this myself, I would have done the MS before I did the motor. Then I would have done and tuned the cam, then done the motor build. That way all I would have needed to do after putting in the new motor is get the ve tune right. But the way I went I could do as much as I wanted and when something wasn't fun, I could just turn to Chuck and say "So when will this part be done? I'll be back later" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rem Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 You have done a good job Erik, You took on a big project and are almost done. You went through alot of crap with the heads, crank, etc. I think it will have awesome results in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Ground shaking up there Matt? It is here WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to finish tuning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rem Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 No, but a huge thing of snow fell off the roof! Must have been you. Did you get to drive it yet? I quess it won't matter you can't beat on it yet its not broken in. I bet your wife is happy she gets her truck back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I drove it home It has a little miss (needs new plugs from all the richness in the intial tune) and needs a bit of cam tuning, but it runs nice I spooled the turbo up a couple of psi just to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rem Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 So how does feel to drive the SS again? Got and sound clips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 It feels great! Now when I see all these dodges with exhaust I can smirk and not immediately remember I'm driving a v6!! No sound clips yet -- with the new turbo, the tail pipes need to be reworked (today) and I need to replace the plugs and get rid of the miss first (also today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rem Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Did you get it all cleared up? How long is the break period on the motor? I bet your right foot is getting itchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKey Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Eric, good to hear. Let us know what the miss turned out to be. Are you changing oil at 100, then break in over at 500? How's the MS tuning going? Ever find out what shorted it? That missing ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Eric, good to hear. Let us know what the miss turned out to be. Are you changing oil at 100, then break in over at 500? How's the MS tuning going? Ever find out what shorted it? That missing ground? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The short came from the guy at the shop that pulled the wires out of one of the injector plugs and let them touch... ouch. I've got it running pretty decently atm -- the missed was another fouled plug, and I changed them all out, but the computer is still registering misses on 1,2,3,4. Someone refresh my memory -- GM is driver's side is 2468, and pass is 1357 or is it 1234, 5678? Spent a bunch of time tuning this afternoon. It's running pretty smooth when warmed up and at less than 50% throttle. I could kill Chuck and the gang though... There are parts in a box that I found in the truck (plastic stuff like wiring harness hold downs), there is a vent hose dangling from the tranny, its leaking oil, the oil pressure sender is telling the PCM 130.2psi anytime the key is on, someone forgot to secure the top radiator hose so guess who needs new efans... Zapped the driver's side fan. Oh yeah.. Gas filler neck leaks. It's going back in the a.m. At least I had fun driving it this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rem Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Erik, its 1357 on the the drivers and 2468. Or aleast thats how I was taught on the older small blocks. I quess the sensor for the oil pressure is shot and the fans shorted out? I can't wait for my HP to get back, the dam interface was screwed up right from HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurbochargedBerserker Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Erik, its 1357 on the the drivers and 2468. Or aleast thats how I was taught on the older small blocks. I quess the sensor for the oil pressure is shot and the fans shorted out? I can't wait for my HP to get back, the dam interface was screwed up right from HP. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dunno on the sensor -- might not be plugged in, or crimped or something. The fan lost all its blades (lost 6/10 to the hose, and I broke the other 4 off so it could spin without shaking the whole truck (literally). Okay. I've been fouling 4 -- did it on two sets of plugs and am reading a misfire on 4 on the third set. I'm lost. Thanks for the info, Matt. I will put it to good use tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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