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Dealers always jack up the price quite high. I know a guy who traded his X5 in to a dealer and they put 10g on the trade in value price for retail. Ridiculous. They might have jacked up the price on your SS, thinking it is a rarity and there will be a lot of demand for it. There's a dealer near me that won't let anyone test drive their "higher performance cars" without putting money down and by higher performance I mean WS6s, cts-v, even a grand prix gxp, and they always put the price about 5-6grand over market value. Some dealers are just dumb and are hoping for the miracle buyer.

So would I usually see your truck crusing around lahaina town, I usually stay in kapalua. I thought it was the Heavy duty ram series which included the powerwagon.

Well I now I definately see why you need a jacked up truck, you need it in Hawaii, those off roads are pretty rough stuff. I see some of the most badass jacked up trucks over there. But I notice that there seems to be an abundance of jacked up tundras compared to other truck brands. Which island do you live on, I go to hawaii almost every year.

I still think using magazines stats are pointless. As I recall no performance truck has won truck of the year, the SRT-10, the X-runner, Lightning etc. they were just reviewed. If they do give truck of the year they don't single out a model from the series saying the Chevrolet 1500 5.3 vortec LT crew cab, 4x4 wtih these options are truck of the year. They would just say chevy silverado is truck of the year, which applies to all silverados. Why I am even arguing using stupid magazine ads, if you trust your magazines so much follow everything they say, hence trade your titan in and get a Honda fit or ridgeline, according to the editors they are unbelievable. I personally don't care what people think of the SS, if you don't like it, then don't trade your titan in for one. We obviously have different uses for our truck considering you have a nice lift on yours. I don't need to go where I need a 12 inch lift and boggers, most people don't, assuming you live in north America, I think that what you've got there is less useful than a regular titan. It's visability and driveability is horrendous for everyday usage. So the point about using the truck for what it is meant for, I think mine is actually used for what it is meant for, otherwise it would have come all jacked up. By the way I have nothing against your truck, I think it is badass and you did some nice work to it. I just can't drive something like that in the city.

Habby B-day

only 3 big wheels now.

It's been a while since I've been in one of these flame war threads, reminds me of the good old VW and dakota days. Firstly no one should rate how good a truck is based on magazine awards. Car and Driver has ranked the ford focus in its top ten for a a few years up to 04, but if you check the consumer stats on it, it's a piece. The Mercedes SLK has gotten prestigious honours also from Car and Driver and that car is problematic to a fiat level. If you've actually noticed, magazine editors are idiots, they rated the subaru baja as a truck and gave it truck of the year, the ridge line was truck of the year anything that is new and different is going to get the cover, becuase people are interested to read about new vehicles. Sales of magazines would drop if they always did reviews of the same car. Example silverado redesigned in 99, won truck of the year, 04 the f150 was redesigned and it won truck of the year, titan introduced it becomes truck of the year, honda ridgeline debuted as truck of the year and so on. Honestly the Titan is not a bad truck, its probably the best of the import trucks. If you come on a Silverado site expect site loyalty. You are obviously just trolling trying to instigate sh*t, hence your screen name. Your just giving a negative image of the average titan owner as a guy with his panties in wad. Suck it up, a SS beat a titan on a street condition, it's not like on any titan forum I haven't heard of you guys smoking lightnings/SS/SRT/etc. You seem pretty uptight when someone bashes your precious titan, maybe its time for a screen name change from get a real truck to get some vagisil.

Very nice truck, the hood definately makes it meaner. If only you Cali guy's didn't need the front plate, it would make the front end so much nicer. Are you going to smoke the tails?

It actually depends on what you like. The silverado SS at heart is still a silverado, full size frame, all the capabilities of a normal silverado with a bit more kick. They don't handle or perform like the TBSS does. If you prefer the size and the look of the big pick up, stick with the SSS. If you want an SS that is fast out of the box, more nimble around the city and has more of a fun factor out of the box, then the TBSS is your choice. Granted I don't know how much you actually use the truck aspect of the silverado, but if you often use the bed and need to tow your boat, the Silverado is probably a better bet. Both the SSS and the TBSS have great platforms for adding lots of power. Since your SSS is 2wd, if you do go for huge power you can easily get an 80E unlike the awd guys. Between the two I prefer my silverado more, just because I'm a truck guy.

I'm glad to hear things went well. I wish your dad a speedy recovery.

House is always the main priority. I'd actually get a house before I get a nice car. All our financial situations are different and our priorities are also different. I would definately recommend getting an appropriate dwelling well within your means and putting as much down as possible and having a good credit rating before signing a morgage. Hence I would plan the budget such that the morgage is not drastically affecting your standard of living. Black2003SS is definately right about people getting into morgages that are just way too much for them. Be realisitc at what you can comfortably pay to the morgage each month and go from there. Work towards paying off the morgage as fast as possible and try not to get stuck to 30 years or 15 years of payments. Once you build up more credit and have more money you can easily move up to a nicer home. This way at least the money you pay each month is going to ownership unlike a rental. Good luck.

The LT1s were still pretty fast, high 13s and the LS1s are in the low 13s. If you want to run with them, you've got to aim for high 12s. Only advantage we've got is out of the hole and thats about it.

Very nice, the truck and the vette are both awesome

The front end on the callaway is too aston martin like. From the front its very similar to one of those new jag XK or to an aston martin db7. Its not as agressive as the ZO6 front end. But the camaro still looks badass and the tundra concept is actually pretty nice, I wonder what they put under the hood.

The shame with living here is that quite the sports cars don't move during the winter months. This summer I'll be driving the ferrari a lot. I'll tell you that a 99 s600 does not move well in the snow, rear wheel drive and 400bhp and 400ft/lbs is a disaster, so I guess the ferrari wouldn't make it to the end of the driveway .

The past week in Alberta, Canada its been that cold. The SSS drives very well in the snow, It drives very similar to the 05 escalade, and for winter driving I would choose the SSS over the TBSS. But that's what I prefer, and if your in the city I find the stock 20s on the SSS are just fine. If only I had good weather all year round. For the winter I cut off about 1/2 the cars. I think I'm going to cut off the jeep until the snow melts.

It's been hovering just over -30 degrees Celsius the past few days, with snow and ice covered streets. I decided to see how the SRT8 and the TBSS handles the harsh winter conditions. First thing to note is that, if the jeeps engine is allowed to cool down and left outside in -30 degree weather for about 7-8 hours it is going to be very hard to start it. Took me about 5-6 hard cranks before I fired up the beast. The TBSS on the other hand one solid crank and the LS2 fires up to life. Like all the GM vehicles I've owned they can start in -40 degree weather without being plugged. Definately the advantage to GM here. The AWD system in the Jeep is pretty solid making a lot of corrections as the suv slips on the side roads, but it sure makes a lot of noise. You can actually hear each wheel braking and a transfer of power going where. Decent awd system, but sort of irritating at the same time. The TBSS awd, very quiet and precise corrections to keep the SUV running straight. Minimal noise coming from the corrections just a traction message that flashes. All in all the TBSS awd seems to handle better. Advantage to GM here. Going through approximately a foot of snow, the jeep has a lot more trouble than the TBSS. Considering though that they both have 20 inch wheels, I think the TBSS has better tires than the jeep. The jeep's runflats are consistently giving a tire pressure warning, and I have recieved an inspection notice from Chrysler about the tires. Braking on ice does occur faster in the jeep than the TBSS. So advantage for snow travel would be to the SS and for braking to the Jeep. Gas consumption in these cold winters with idling and stop and go travel. The jeep just sucks gas like a monster. I estimate about 8-9 miles to the gallon with premium. The SS is considerably better at around 15-16mpg. Advantage TBSS. So from my humble opinion for winter driving the TBSS is the clear winner, and if it is really cold, jeep needs to be plugged in. But for summer driving, I prefer the jeep.

That sounds fair, thanks for the help.

I'd pick the 3rd set. It's nice and clean. Those escalade 22s are too pricey, you could get a nice 22 for less.

Video's like that make, me sort of regret not getting one.

The Yenko clone is very nice, as is most of the cars you guys posted. How much would you guys pay for a 6 year old nut/bolt restored 69 camaro SS 396 4 spd X11body, original 350 car with some imperfections in the paint? The interior is flawless and looks brand new, trunk/floors are solid and the drive train is in good running conditiion.

Beautiful girl

I've been checking floor pans, trunk pans, and one guy had his car up on the lift so I could see the under carriage. I'm not an expert in buying these kind of cars, wheres the best place to check for replacement quarters, etc. On one of the cars it looks like the bottom may be sprayed with some POR-15 so It's hard to see the rust condition. Canadian? I'd say thats a pretty damn good deal for the guy who bought it. When you talk about nice, are we talking about a nut and bolt resto car, a cosmetic fix up car, rust, paint condition? You seem to have quite the knowledge with the classics, so what do you look for when you buy one of your mopars? I've tried to do some decoding based on the tag on the fire wall, and the cars seem mostly to match up, with the exception of paint, or rear end on the 350s case. But there isn't too many records on some of these cars, so its hard to exactly be sure. How much would a number matching 396 4spd SS car be worth in good condition versus a clone?

I've had my eye on a 1st gen camaro for a while. Although I'm not that familiar with the pricing of these cars. I've been looking at 2 different 1969 Camaros. One is a SS 350 V8 4spd, X11 code, 10 bolt car with a restoration about 5 years old and is pretty solid and is good condition (paint not perfect, some chrome a little dull), the second one is a SS 396 4spd, 10 bolt car also restored about 5-6 years ago in similar condition to the first one. What is a reasonable price for these cars. Also what are the key things to check for when buying a muslce car, other than checking the floor and trunk pans. Thanks